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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/52742400

How the Senate Democratic leader and his Gang of Eight keep trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

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[–] logi@piefed.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

two party mentality.

The two parties are not a "mentality". They're an inescapable consequence of FPTP voting. If you pretend otherwise you will simply lose. And most likely get more fascists.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Stop repeating the propaganda of your two parties like it's gospel, it only keeps them in power.

Both Canada and the United Kingdom use FPTP voting and they have more than two viable parties that regularly win and hold seats. You keep electing fascists-light because fascists-classic is too scary, but you're still voting for fascists.

It was Biden who full throated support for fascist Israel's genocide against the natives they colonize, it was Biden who allowed police to attack peaceful student protestors, it was Biden's press secretary that had police drag reporters out for asking questions, and it was Biden who spread lies and his party that continues to dehumanize Palestinians.

It was Biden that renewed FISA, who signed a bill to block railroad strike, who bypassed Leahy law to transfer arms to Israel, who extended Trump's Title 42, who started the TikTok divestment ban that lead to the purchase everyone is blaming Trump for now. It was under Biden than the US repeatedly vetoed a ceasefire in Gaza, the DHS waived 26 laws to build border wall segments in Texas, and the DOH prosecuted Assange.

You don't fight fascism with fascism.

[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I get your point, but the FPTP part of Canadian legislature is the House of Commons and there are only 2 viable parties (outside of Quebec). I think it is clear we need a different voting system to build more political parties in the US, like ranked choice voting.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Both Canada and the United Kingdom use FPTP voting and they have more than two viable parties that regularly win and hold seats.

Sure, but they also have prime ministers and parliaments, and are generally run differently from the United States which has had two main parties since its inception because that is what the system will produce.

[–] logi@piefed.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thankfully I vote in a place without a brain dead voting system, so I have the luxury of voting for who I actually want. It would be great if the US could have that too, but sadly they don't. Once you get to the actual elections there are only 3 choices: the fascists, the limp dicks, or leave the choice to others. However much you dislike Biden, those are the choices. The time to affect what the choices are is before that in primaries and local elections and it takes time and work. A lot of it. It sucks, but that's what it is.

And maybe, just maybe, y'all can do try to do something about that voting system.