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[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That seems to be their mid-term strategy, release their own certified device. That should have some interesting implications on safetynet attestation, too.

I still think we need a fork of AOSP, before the community atrophies any further.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That seems to be their mid-term strategy, release their own certified device.

If you look up what "Certified Device" means in the context of Android, we don't want that.

I still think we need a fork of AOSP, before the community atrophies any further.

GrapheneOS is a fork of AOSP.

[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don't know if having play services running in a profile that can be deleted would pass that standard for certification. Probably not, I guess.

As for being a fork, I mean the larger community of Graphene, Lineage, Calyx if it continues to exist, and probably a couple Chinese manufacturers who rely on AOSP to manage a fork that is collaboratively developed going forward, that no longer relies on Google's maintenance of the project.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

that no longer relies on Google's maintenance of the project.

Yeah that's just a gargantuan task or someone would have done it already. Sadly, too few people care to make that happen.

Huawei did it (HarmonyOS) but only because they're a huge company with the necessary resources, and because they were legally prevented from using Android.

[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago

I know, but it's looking more and more like there won't be an alternative for long. I'd rather have a consortium of interests united in moving a fork forward as the core for all of their own OS's.