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[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's a losing proposition either way, right? Without investor money OpenAI (and friends) can't keep buying chips from Nvidia, but SoftBank doesn't have money to keep giving OpenAI without selling off their stake in Nvidia. Yes, it's incredibly dumb to ditch their share of the only parts of this that are actually making money, but if they don't keep the cash flowing them nobody is going to be making money. Like, greatly oversimplifying here, obviously, but it seems like SoftBank loses either way.

It's almost like this whole bubble is really bad actually.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 2 points 8 hours ago

i don't know, maybe softbank counted on openai not being able to go for-profit (which is not IPO, so it's not like they got more transparent or anything). that deal was signed long time ago in bubble terms, and it went like this (or so i heard): first tranche was 10B from softbank + up ro 10B from other investors, they couldn't get all that money from other investors and that's why it was 18.5B and not 20B. that was some half year ago? even back then softbank didn't had the money and had to sell part of arm (iirc). now they had to supply the remaining 22.5B, idk if it's all softbank, or whether they would get out of that deal if they could, or whether they will continue pouring money there (we can assume all these dcs are vaporware) can openai find other suckers? possibly, but scaring away a reliable one would be bad for business