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Fair points. But "just" surveillance? Anyone worth being surveiled sure wouldn't be so dumb to use WhatsApp or other stupid crap. I'm worthless to surveillance and even I would not be possible to surveil.
Just seems weird that it's pushed so hard. Surveillance was always a must-have, but why now? The moment it gets voted away it's back on the table.
Counter-argument: all my drug dealers use whatsapp. Real life is not movies, criminals are rarely tech savvy.
Depends on the level of criminal though. Pedo-networks surely know to evade the law. See e.g. the major pedo-forum which exists for way Over a decade and is full to the brim.
I also doubt that anyone really cares about some street-level-thug. Anyone seriously slinging would surely also just ditch surface apps. If they'd even use those phones at all. I wouldn't.