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I used to think that as well, but this is also standard usage: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/should-you-use-until-or-till-or-til
Ah, Webster -- the guy who rewrote American and the Dictionary that first equated Figurative with Literal.
It's logically unsound.
Remembering that Dictionaries don't tell you what's right, only what's popular at best, and that Webster is about the worst there, It's not a great reference. And if we trusted the mob to decide how to spell and pronounce words, you and I would be MUCH better at the head-wobble -- popularity as a mechanism for evolution would have refactored a LOT of pronunciation and spelling a while ago.
The abbreviation of "until" is " 'til ". I know this because it's an abbreviation, and "until" doesn't have two Ls.
Here’s Grammar.com saying the same: https://www.grammar.com/usage_and_difference:_till,_until,_'til (you have to copy/paste the entire link - Lemmy is fighting me on the URL format).
There are plenty of non-dictionary linguistic sources out there that corroborate, but I’m not going to waste my time spoon feeding them to you when clearly you’re incapable of admitting when you’re wrong. “Till” is not an abbreviation. You made that assertion up all on your own. And I’m certainly not going to trust someone who doesn’t even know when it’s proper to capitalize words.
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