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Ending H-1B will only further accelerate domestic layoffs for outsourced talent. 🙄
Because there was something stopping them from outsourcing from the start, or what are you trying to say?
I don't really know anything, I am just lamenting the decline of my line of work... between out-sourcing and AI... maybe I should just go back to making pizzas like i'm 20 again 😏
Sorry. AI took your pizza making job. It's now reccomending the newest popular pizza topping. Bleach.
Why do you think that?
Because without those visas, the non-American talent can't be employed, and the US simply doesn't have the local talent to fill those spots.
Which means companies will have only one way to keep up with the talent demand: employ it abroad. Which reduces the amount of tax paid to the US government, the amount of money that circulates in the economy, and so on.
The talent is there but it's not cheap. Why would a company hire 1 US engineer for 100k per year when they can hire 5 Indian ones for 20k per year each(made up salary numbers but the point stands)
Companies will always look for the cheaper option. If you ban H1B1 visas then they will just outsource the whole thing if it's cheaper than hiring local talent.
I think serious consideration should be about closing up that loophole, too. If companies want to enjoy access to American infrastructure and the American market, they should be willing to pay Americans a competitive wage for that. If companies start using offshored talent, there is nothing stopping that from being taxed so high as to make it cost-prohibitive.
No, the talent simply isn't there in the numbers companies would need them. And this isn't limited to the US only - even here in the UK, it's a struggle to hire good talent, because the fields are incredibly muddled, especially since AI-aided engineering came to be.
For example, I work in software engineering. My role, aside from being a senior engineer, a systems architect and designer, also involves hiring. We're actually hiring in a number of countries, US included, and I'm overseeing most of it. The applicant rates are simply abysmal. HR pre-filters our candidates, and that usually boils things down from around 1000 CVs to about 50 who actually make it to first roster, and from that 50, we end up actually interviewing maybe 5, because the rest obviously lack the required (and clearly indicated!) skills. And even from those 5, more often than not we choose none to hire because they don't really reach the bare minimum for the position (and to be perfectly fair, the bar isn't set too high). I've recently had a candidate who had a Masters in Computer Science and some 8 years of work experience, yet couldn't name base components in the specific segment he's been working in, nor could he define basic terms like SOLID or KISS.
And I'm hearing similar experiences from other fields too. Reality is, there's not a lack of people but a lack of talent, which often needs to be imported. And blocking that import will simply result in the companies moving to locations where they can source the talent or where the talent is willing to move to. Previously that was the US, because even though the situation was quite shite, your country has done a great job hiding that via media propaganda. Now it isn't, simply because y'all had to elect a racist demented dipshit.
LOL. America has tons and tons of local talent. The job market is actually very tough right now since there is so much of that talent.
Companies just want to drive down wages to much lower levels, and claim they cannot source local talent here, which is a blatant lie in every case I've seen - which is in IT.
The fact that you believe there's actual talent overflow in the US makes me question just what you might consider "talent". A warm body with the ability to turn on a computer is not "talent".
I've been working decades in IT and for decades I've heard fraudulent claims from companies saying that they cannot find local talent. That's nonsense.
And knowing that companies have been shedding workers for some time now after over-hiring during Covid and hearing how long it is taking for people (in some cases, people I know) to land new jobs is an indication that there should be plenty of people to hire within America without resorting to H-1Bs.
mostly pessimism as I watch colleagues slowly get laid off for AI or off-shore dev work (i'm a software engineer). I suppose If they have to offshore anyways, might as well go all in. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
To be clear I, personally, don't have any problem with H-1Bs i'm just pessimistic on what companies will take as an action item from this. Man, i'm just pessimistic about software engineering as a career in general lately.
I've been doing this for thirty years. I don't see any reason to be pessimistic about software development. Right now I think we're going through a rough patch. About to get tougher, I think, because we're on the cusp of a big downturn in the economy, right on the heels of an industry downturn caused by Trump's first term.
Long-term, though, there will continue to be a need for good software developers. And their best efforts will continue to be hobbled by unrealistic timelines and pressure to get things done over getting them done well, thus ensuring we will continue to need ever more developers to continue developing the same things over and over.
So you have no idea how it affects you, despite it being something that affects your career...
And instead of doing any type of basic research, you're just making random guesses nd hoping for the best?
I'm shocked you have a job to worry about losing
Guy, it's a Lemmy post, I am not running for office. People are allowed to have opinions without them being fully fledged thesis papers.
You said it's something that concerns you...
In the time you've spent making random guesses and defending your own ignorance, you could have learned about it...
There is no law of nature that could not be taxed accordingly, too, but the country needs to have this option presented as part of the conversation.
That threat is always thrown out there to keep people from questioning H-1B as if we need to answer to wayward corporations, instead of the other way around...