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[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why oh why didn't the lawmakers add an obligation to use a standardized cookies selection popup.

I remember day one of it coming into effect and it was already obvious this was a necessity.

Lobbying. One of those laws pretending to do the right thing but sabotaged.

Or maybe its even worse than that. Before you could just have the cookies deleted. But if you do that now you get the awful popup every time, so you just accept them in the end.
I know I do.
This law has made me accept cookies spying.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's already part of the GDPR, companies just aren't complying with it.

From the official GDPR site:

To comply with the regulations governing cookies under the GDPR and the ePrivacy Directive you must:

  • Receive users’ consent before you use any cookies except strictly necessary cookies.
  • Provide accurate and specific information about the data each cookie tracks and its purpose in plain language before consent is received.
  • Document and store consent received from users.
  • Allow users to access your service even if they refuse to allow the use of certain cookies
  • Make it as easy for users to withdraw their consent as it was for them to give their consent in the first place.
[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Make it easy"

If you make a vague law that companies can circumvent they will do it.

That's why you force the use of a standardized menu, because nothing else makes sense, no? The same way you don't leave it to the tobacco manufacturers to implement the warnings on the box ; you force them all to adopt the same one that's clearly visible.

It feels like it's either severe incompetence, or the work of lobbyists. But I don't know enough about the matter

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not "make it easy", it's "make it as easy", meaning it can't be easier to accept than to revoke, much clearer bar.

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you dont think that's really vague though?

Why not mandate a x by x pixel popup with a specific wording?

I remember this French company, I think SFR (phone), which had to show on their website their condemnation. Since there weren't clear specifications they made it so the message would disappear when you scrolled down one pixel, so almost no one saw it.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well, that could make the popup unusable depending on screen size. I think the wording is pretty clear, the issue is just that there's no followup and not clear enough incentives to avoid skirting the rules at the moment.

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Pixel or screen %, you know what I mean.

But yeah no followup seems to be an issue with the GDPR

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because those laws were made with good intentions in mind.

But businesses never have good intentions, especially if it eats into their revenue. So they use malicious compliance to make it seem like it is the law that is bad.

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So really naive lawmakers then? Come on, that's not how you make a company obey, everyone knows that, yet legislators time and again do an oopsie and make a highly symbolic law that obviously won't work because there's no coercion!