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Quite a selective sample for such a big claim
There are abo 25% of countries in there and it doesn't look like doctored data and agrees with lived experience. Your claims are baseless.
Are you concerned that nothing in your reply addresses whether the countries were chosen to support a trend?
No pattern is obvious. There are no backwater countries, but otherwise most important ones are in there. You cannot plausibly cherry pick this effect while choosing so very many countries. A large part of global gdp is in there.
I can only laugh at this. "Most important countries", yes no pattern.
What claim exactly? Its say around the world and lists countries that span the globe. Seems accurate. Plus it represents the majority of the population.
There is one African country and nothing from the middle east.
The most populous African country by a significant margin and Turkey is often counted as middle east.
Right, but microscopic European populations are still included because they support the thesis.
Wow your argument sure keeps changing in every response. I think there is a phrase for that...
Not understanding stuff, maybe there's a term for that.
So? You are reading things into the data and effectively turning it into a strawman. It isn't presenting an argument, it is presenting data. You are being oversensitive and inferring an argument, and then criticizing that argument, but it doesn't even exist.
Presenting data is an argument. Because you decide what data to present and how. If you leave out data that doesn't support a statement you made based on data you present, then there is an issue.
I'm not quite sure how these countries were selected, but the set does touch on many regions and the very biggest ones.
Sure, but only a single African country and none from the middle east.
Yep. And subsaharan Africa is a loss, because I'm guessing it's the place bucking the trend. I wouldn't go quite as far as "selective", though, since that implies intentionality or completely different results.
I would guess that the rest of MENA looks a lot like Turkey, if you could manage to safely poll it - a starting point that's uniformly hostile, but a few people being swayed by progressive influence over time. Religious belief of the younger generations is also descending faster than anywhere else IIRC.
North Korea would also be fascinating, with a magic wand.
If you leave out data that bucks a trend you like, then you are being selective.
I don't really see evidence of either. Many minor countries elsewhere are neglected as well, and it's still a global trend.
So it's a global trend based on non-global data carefully selected to leave out anything that doesn't agree?
It's also just a global trend anecdotally, and probably based on other research that's been done. And it almost certainly does extend to MENA for reasons I mentioned. This is one of those infographics that's not really surprising.
Basically, asked and answered.
Lol, indeed.
Edit: Thanks, I unsubbed this feed. Scientific illiterates masturbating over how "objective" their data is.
Okay, have a great day.
Well homosexuality is illegal in much of North Africa and the Middle East, so running a poll might get you in trouble
A reasonable point, but extremely difficult to square with the claim made by the OP. Also, the rest of Africa exists.
And subsaharan Africa, including Nigeria I think.
Edit: Yep, punishable by hard time in the Christian south, and death in the Muslim north. Other Christian nations down there have brought in the death penalty over time.