yes, it has. these people have not been paying attention lol. the CDC was making bad decisions the first Trump presidency due to political pressure. it literally started there, guys, sorry.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Look since we're involved in this discussion here, can somebody provide sources for either side? I mean I know my hunches, but I kind of try to rely on data, hard as that may be to come by these days.

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

i mean, do you not remember their decisions 5 years ago? not being snippy just saying you don’t need sources.. you lived it. they abandoned medical reality to force people to go back to work earlier and to stop staying home. no other health organization was saying what they were lol. because they were a captured entity by the Biden administration who forced them to kill us lest the economy suffer.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

NO no no no no no, look, I'm 100% not being snippy, I don't know. I suspect, and I expect, a few things to be true, which are only getting more blatantly confirmed by the day, so I actually don't know, I just don't want this place to turn into Reddit, I like to hear shit out on their own merits.

Which, to also be fair, you haven't provided evidence for. I am inclined to agree with you, but I'm too old to base my reality on hunches.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago

I mean Trump was elected in 2016 so