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[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plus those Cyberpower PC's have to factor in a Windows license into the cost.

Honestly, the Steam Machine needs to be less than $800 to be viable.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I just threw together a PC with an 8500g and a 7600 (not the mobile version) and it came to about $780 while being about 30% faster. I think $750 is the most the market would bear but, honestly, it should just be $650.

Edit: Oh shit, I forgot the US doesn't include tax on their prices. Those $780 are converted from local currency and after taxes. Sales tax in Mexico is 16% so the real price would be around $673. I changed my mind, Valve would be delusional if they price this a cent above $650.

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I agree it is cheaper to build your own it also wont be as small as the Steam Machine.

It's just that Valve has made a point that it will be priced like a PC, if it is priced like a PC then $650 is far too close to current console pricing. I want to be wrong here, I want it to be cheap and really push Linux into the mainstream. I'm just far too cynical and I expect it to be the most pointless product until proven otherwise.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

$650 is far too close to current console pricing

I don't think it is, though. $650 is 44% over the $450 MSRP of the PS5. If we look at "PC prices" (whatever they meant by that) the desktop I specced outperforms it by 30% to 50%. That puts the size tax for the Steam Machine at up to 45%, which would be hard to justify when laptops with 4050s are regularly on sale. Pricing it above $650 means you can go to BestBuy right now and get an HP Victus for $550 and have a spare $100 for a controller. Then you'll have a PC that is faster, smaller and cheaper than a Steam Machine. This has to be under $700 to succeed. Although... Valve has been fostering a sort of Nintendo effect where they could price it at $5k and send you a dildo along with the PC so you can go fuck yourself and people would still buy it.

Fun fact: I was looking for laptops with a 7600M to get a more direct price to performance comparison but I wasn't able to find a single one. Guess now we know what they mean by "semi-custom GPU".

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The Xbox Series X is $650 and the PS5 is $500.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The digital PS5 is $450 and the Xbox Series X has about 15% of the marketshare, proving people won't stand for ridiculous prices.

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No, the disc driveless PS5 is $500. I'm looking at it right now on the playstation website. The PS5 Pro is $750.

$650 is console pricing now. You don't have to like it but that is the reality.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Seems like they changed it two months ago. That still puts a $650 price tag 30% above the PS5 MSRP so no, $650 isn't console pricing.

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You stated incorrect information then doubled down that your incorrect information was true till finally actually looking it up to then assert that out of 3 consoles $500, $650, and $750 that $650 is not console pricing. So yes, $650 is console pricing, what're you gonna do tell me I'm wrong again because you have some strong feelings?

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Only one of those 3 consoles is comparable to the Steam Machine. You can't grab a product from a different segment in the market and lump it in with the rest just because they're the same kind of product. If that were the case, I could just look at a ThinkCentre and say "see? $200 is PC pricing" but thatd be insane — nobody looking to buy a ThinkCentre would ever consider a Steam Machine, and nobody looking to buy the disc or Pro versions of the PS5 will consider a Steam Machine either. So yes, your failure to consider market segments means that you are wrong.