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Keep a close eye on who’s joining your group chats.

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[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

According to the FBI, a “sensitive source with excellent access” provided the information, dodging the requirement for a warrant.

So not a technological blunder, but a human one.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Where does it say a human was the source with excellent access?

It could very well mean a tool.

Also, why do people who defend supposed encrypted chat applications are always quick to shift the blame away without any context or proof. I've seen it multiple times now.

Do you any concrete evidence that it was an informant?

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A tool wouldn't dodge the requirement for a warrant so in that sentence it cannot replace a human.
If we're to disregard the article then we can blame their access on whatever we want.

The reason people believe Signal to be secure has mostly to do with third party analysis such as
https://odr.chalmers.se/server/api/core/bitstreams/527d7251-f7f4-4a6c-ac7b-f8253d174336/content
https://css.csail.mit.edu/6.858/2024/readings/signal-formal.pdf
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/367350335_A_security_analysis_comparison_between_Signal_WhatsApp_and_Telegram

E2EE isn't worth much if the End is compromised though, so it could of course be a compromised android phone that is the "excellent source" but then FBI would need a warrant, I believe?
https://www.threatfabric.com/blogs/sturnus-banking-trojan-bypassing-whatsapp-telegram-and-signal

Of course I don't have any concrete evidence that it was an informant, I have never been to the US and have little interest in their immigration issues so why would I have?

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m sorry but if the FBI is monitoring a chat log, they need a warrant. It doesn’t matter if they were mistakenly given access, they need to justify their reason for being there and to define the specific crime they are investigating.

Of course it won’t happen because we’ve given our government too much power to fuck around without consequences.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 7 points 3 days ago

If someone who is not a government agent has the information, and gives it to the authorities, no, a warrant is not required.