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Two months ago I did a post asking for the opinion of Discovery and the comments were mixed. https://startrek.website/post/29577558

The commander disobeing order to the captain in the first and also attacking her? Xenophobic military propaganda? I didn't like it and that I like Deep Space Nine.

Now I'm watching Lower Decks, is very funny and has a lot of references to other Star Trek series, is really good, I don't understand how a comedy who is almost a parody catch more the Star Trek vibes more than a serious production. I hope Strange New Worlds have something good, because I was already disapointed by the three seasons of Picard and the first episode of discovery.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Strange New Worlds is actually pretty good. Sure there are some weak episodes, some silly ones and so on but don't forget Sisko got trapped in a board game and Picard was Robin Hood.

[–] remote_control_conor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do like Strange New Worlds and feel that it captures the style and tone of classic 90s Star Trek, that most fans love, best. However, I think the number of whimsical episodes relative to the overall length of the season compared to the length of seasons from the 90s tips the balance too far. I haven't crunched any numbers for this comparisons, it's just vibes but even if the ratio was the same, in a shorter season I feel you need more serious episodes to maintain plot tension and character empathy.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, SNW only gets a 10 episode season, so based on ratio, 1 silly episode of SNW is equal to ~2.5 episodes of TNG; it doesn't take a lot of silly episodes to make it seem like a huge amount of silly in SNW.

I know we probably can't go back to 25 episode seasons because those were always very taxing to work on, but I think 15 episodes is a good compromise. I think SNW would have really benefited from a season of about that length; even 12 episodes would be nice.

Heck, as convoluted as Discovery could get, from what I watched of the show (up to a few episodes into S4), it somewhat benefited from a longer season in the sense we had plenty of time for multi-episode plots, which are harder to develop in a 10 episode season balancing episodic and linear storytelling. However, I don't think they used that time the most effectively, as season 3 often felt like death by subplots - the episode would take on so many subplots that, although each of them individually may have been good ideas, none of them ended up being particularly well-executed. It's especially weird because they didn't really need to do that; there was more than enough episodes to, say, have one subplot as an A plot and another as a B plot, then continue the B plot next episode as an A plot and have another B plot.

[–] remote_control_conor@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I'd take any number of additional SNW episodes. It's the best of the new series alongside lower decks.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago

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