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An anonymous neighbor wanted to control the appearance of my yard without speaking directly to me. So whoever they are, they filed a report that I have weeds and I was cited.

I wanted to understand what law was being used against me, so I looked it up. It turns out the law is in a body of statutes covering health and public safety. So my 1st thought is: that’s bizarre.. an ugly plant is a health issue?

WTF is a “weed”?

In common language most people are making a value judgment by regarding ugly plants as weeds. But the legal definition is not so subjective. It’s plants that have toxins and allergens. So things like Poison Ivy. The law names 6 or so examples but is not limited to those.

So the law is perhaps reasonably written to control health hazards, not so people can control the appearance of other people’s property. But the enforcers were either clueless about this or they were intellectually dishonest in hopes that those cited would naively create a pretty landscape for the demanding neighbor without first reading the law.

I might have been willing to do a landscape had the process of telling me the yard looks ugly not been as rude as sending cops to bully me.

A citation generally saying “you have weeds” is likely typically a false accusation. They should be writing on the citation exactly which plant specie is toxic or hazardous, just as a speeding ticket says how fast you were measured at.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It turns out the law is in a body of statutes covering health and public safety. So my 1st thought is: that’s bizarre.. an ugly plant is a health issue?

It's been so long since many in the western world understood this but: yes. When those laws were written, overgrown lots in populated areas were a health issue. Sometimes they still are: Philadelphia specifically targets overgrown vacant lots because they provide an attractive area for rats to live, breed, and infest a neighborhood. The same thing happens with mice - and where mice go, snakes follow.

"But mice, rats and snakes are all around us!" Well, yes, they are. But we keep their numbers in check, and even the most eco-minded can change their opinions when it directly affects them: I certainly did when the two places on either side of me got foreclosed after 2008, and there was eventually an infestation of snakes, and then the snakes eventually started coming into my yard and my shed and my grill. Turns out what, while I'm okay with domesticated snakes, I'm kinda phobic about encountering them unexpectedly - like when I open the grill cover to start a barbeque and a family of snakes hiss at me.

Anyway, the problem is that, as neighborhoods with active infestations have faded into the past, people have started interpreting those laws as being more about beauty than health.

I'd start by making your overgrown area look more intentional. Keep the walkways well cleared. Put in some garden decorations and a birdbath. Maybe some bird houses, or decorative tree-hanging things. A chair and a small table on the porch or somewhere. Maybe trim bushes or small dense ground plants into nice even sides, that sort of thing - a bunch of small stuff that says "this area is intentionally wild, but it's also being regularly tended to and is under control".

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Good tips, we had a neighbor who had a, “Bee friendly lawn” sign. Had some overgrown grass but kept some areas neat to show intent.