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Some people are stupid and immature and believe their cat will suffer immense psychological torture if kept inside
They don’t care about the environment because they are entitled and thoughtless and genuinely believe you’re just a cat hating alarmist
As someone without a cat in the fight, don't cats suffer if they're kept indoors? I mean, I know that I do
They’re totally fine indoors and are even healthier
People just don’t want to do the work of entertaining and playing with their cat so they let them outside
https://www.catster.com/cat-health-care/is-it-cruel-to-keep-cat-indoors/
I guess they're the same as us then in that respect; our biology is primed for the outdoors, but we live longer indoors and any resulting depression or drop in happiness from this nature/nurture divide is very livable.
Fair enough. I can say that I'd probably let my cat out if I had one, but who knows, maybe I wouldn't
Some people are responsible and take their cat on walks with a leash
Or make an enclosed area for them
Most are just entitled dipshits that don’t care if their cat kills every living creature it can find, which they do
Walk on a leash might be something I'd try, though only on the streets. I live close to and volunteer at a nearby nature reserve, and I'm sure my colleagues would be livid if they knew I was taking a cat near a place with wading ducks.
That being said, we have a metric ton of foxes here and weirdly enough, the only thing they're afraid of seem to be cats.
So, you might find this interesting.
Theres rewilding of Tasmanian Devils on the Mainland beginning by Aussie Ark its primarily for insurance against a severe cancerous disease that decimated the Tasmanian population.
I can't find a reference, but its also thought that Tasmanian Devils reintroduction in the mainland may reduce fox and cat numbers in the wild in Australia by putting downward pressure on those species' population numbers. Which could be a great win for conservation, since these two species alone are responsible for so many native animal deaths.
Gosh they're cute little devils. What a crazy (transmittable through bite??) cancer they have, and how sad that farmers would decimate them based on nothing more than conjecture.
I hope their numbers thrive, and I hope the ecosystem on the whole retains some balance for the smaller creatures to thrive a little
Why do you keep referencing indoor cats and poorer quality of life or depression as if it's a foregone conclusion? It's not, and indoor cats live longer, are exposed to less diseases and viruses, and keep bird populations from being pointlessly decimated. If you have sources for your prejudiced opinions, post them. Because you're starting to sound like propaganda...
I didn't realise it was a fierce debate, I thought we were all (quite amicably) trading anecdotes.
Alright so there's this 2021 paper cited > 100 times that cites a few studies in the intro, claiming that many cats just don't get the proper indoor stimulation even when the owners are trying:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7909512/
(I don't list the studies themselves, but their number are at least somewhat indicative of prevailing evidence)