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All I see is two groups of millionaires fighting over who gets the payday. I don't know the founders personally, and if what krafton says is true (that they got lazy) then fuck them. I don't owe either side anything.
I'll always side with the actual employees first, but if they are getting their bonus either way, then I'll go with the side that is advocating more content and better quality. That's what actually makes a game good, not releasing it just in time so three guys get a fat paycheck.
The article just mentioned they used chatgpt in the fight, it seems inconsequential.
The article actually mentions that they used ChatGPT for advice with how to avoid doing the payout. That differentiation is big, it's not that they just used it casually, it was actively used as a point of advice of how to not pay them, and even advised that it was unlikely they could get out of paying for it.
Keep in mind that it wasn't only the founders that were getting this bonus, the bonus was to be shared among the entire dev team as well. The argument is that the studio is trying to push back S2's release into EA because they want to lower chances that they hit the sales metric required for the payout, if that happens the current dev teams as well as the founders wouldn't get the bonus. That's what this case is really about. Their claim is Krafton is intentionally delaying S2 in an attempt to avoid having to do the payout altogether, and that them terminating the founders is just a result of the founders being against the concept of delaying the game, saying that the game is ready for an EA environment.
In my eyes the case is crystal clear. The timeline shows them tasking the founders anything /but/ the game(including focus for PR and the movie), saying the game isn't ready we need to delay it -> the founders rejecting the claim saying that the game is a decent EA candidate and that they won't delay the game -> the founders being terminated for cause for supposedly abandoning the project -> the project getting officially delayed, once the founding team was out of the picture.
Time will what will happen with this case but, it really doesn't look good for Krafton here.
The article just points out that the founders accused the CEO of using ChatGPT to find a way out of the layout and the CRI denied it. There's no evidence at all, just hearsay.
I'm waiting for the lawsuit to progress to make a judgement. And I'm waiting for Subnautica 2 to release and get reviews before making s purchasing decision. Heck, I usually wait a couple of years to buy games anyways.
I normally would side with the founders over the business executives, but the idea that Subnautica 2 was finished, and is of a quality similar to or better than the first game, and Krafton is just sitting on instead of releasing it... That seems really dumb. Bonuses are typically structured as a percentage of profit. The whole point of bonuses is to align the interests of employees with the employer. Krafton should WANT the game to release and sell well enough to hit the bonus incentives.
This is a really weird situation and I can't remember seeing anything like this in the industry before. Usually it's the opposite- the publisher and business executives pushing the developers and creative people to release things too early and unfinished. Because that's how the incentives are usually aligned.
It's also worth giving credit to Krafton for things like buying Tango Softworks after it closed and trying to hire back as many former employees as they could. They are removing Denuvo from Hi-Fi Rush, but they are adding in their own DRM (not sure if it will have an online component or not).
They're a corporation and no one's friend, but Krafton does seem to understand that doing what's right for consumers and employees can often be good for their own bottom line long-term. They do not yet have an established history of making short-term decisions that screw over employees and customers to chase quarterly profit numbers like other publisher have. Yet.
Everything is hearsay at the moment, the testimony isn't public from what I've found, but there's multiple pages stating that the notes of the testimony stated the CEO has admitted that AI was used for general knowledge and then they deleted the conversations afterwards and as such couldn't obtain them anymore. Being as all models store it server side, I expect that if they did a legal notice to Chat-GPT or something they could likely retrieve it, but that would require going through the proper process.