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[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

a team of people trained to physically stop them, bring them somewhere where they can be rehabilitated,

That would be great. Maybe we should try that instead of the police and prisons as they stand now.

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But then you're calling for reforms rather than abolishing the current system which is what the post says

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It’s the same thing.

There’s no true difference between making a new “rehabilitation facility” of whatever name and changing “prison” to be “prison v2: less shitty and counterproductive“. The only difference is the sign on the door.

the trick is that you have to abolish the originals including all the people who are part of the shitty system, and that can be easier to do if you make a whole new institution with a new name and all.

I’m a big believer in “institutional DNA” where the way things start carries down much longer and stronger than one might expect. This explains things like the way US policing (originating from slavecatchers) differs so much from British policing and the Peelian principles. Both can be awful but it happens in very different ways.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

how do you differentiate between a reform and an abolishment?

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Reform

to make an improvement, especially by changing a person's behaviour or the structure of something

Abolish

to end an activity or custom officially

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/reform

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/abolish