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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You don't need to be a citizen to be subject to law enforcement, the only exceptions are people with diplomatic immunity.

I think there should be bare minimum human rights for all, not just citizens, but that's not the case currently.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's basically the point. If you are subject to law enforcement and you have a kid here, the kid is a citizen.

"Subject to the jurisdiction" was essentially to keep diplomats kids from becoming citizens.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 week ago

Ah, okay, sorry. I thought you were implying that a person is immune to laws unless they're a citizen, like those sovereign citizen types, I failed to realize you were quoting a passage from the order lol.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I thought it was more about if a foreign nation say, invaded and controlled a state, then we wouldn't be granting citizenship while it was under a foreign power.

Either way, no reading of that would apply to what the administration wants to see. I believe the argument I saw them attempting was to imagine another word was intended, "exclusively subject to the jurisdiction", meaning an otherwise stateless child becomes a citizen, but if they have birthright citizenship claim anywhere else, that is what the administration would want to use as an excuse to deny citizenship.