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Has this argument ever worked? Every war US has fought, has been against much weaker target (especially Islamic groups), yet the "target" pretty much always fights back. Why would anyone bend over to getting invaded or captured?
He's absolutely correct. There's not 60,000 people there and a third of those are in one city. Greenland has the least dense population of any country. We're hardly going to get bogged down fighting natives with hunting rifles. Also, insurgency is rather impossible in a frozen wasteland. At least Simo Häyhä had trees to snipe from.
Europe isn't going to cross the Pond and start shit if we take Greenland. They're barely standing up to the Russian monster in their backyard, they're hardly going to defend our backyard. We'll get kicked out of NATO, but that's a goal of this administration. Win win.
All of NATO would have to pull together to storm across the Atlantic, and the US would watch that buildup in real time. God only knows what would happen then, but I'd guess a US first strike.
In any case, the US would seed the Atlantic with every hunter-killer sub we got. Europe wouldn't be able to sneak a kayak across.
Pretty fucking bleak situation.
NATO without the USA has 5x the troops capable of operating in Greenland level cold and 10x the equipment capable of the same. Yes the US would be able to seize parts, but holding them would be far more difficult. It would look something like Viet Nam IMO.
Think NATO will cross the Atlantic and do something about it? Serious question. You're talking capability, and you're probably right on the question of winter fighting (damned interesting!), but I'm talking will.
But let's drop the comparison to Vietnam, or any other American fuck ups. To get into such another quagmire, NATO would have to get troops there in the first place. And again, not like they can hide in Greenland's vast jungles. Honestly, I don't know of a fair wartime comparison? Who has invaded a monstrous rock and who has tried to defend it across an ocean? We're all in new territory, and maybe that's the scariest thing.
For all intents and purposes, Greenland in an uninhabited rock, on our side of the world, with strategic minerals and positioning, and NATO has done jack shit to defend their own eastern front. And let's not forget Putin pushing for all this, and getting his way. We're taking it and I am scared shitless of what comes next.
I really don't know TBH, but I certainly hope so. If they don't, their goose is cooked as everyone will know that NATO is toothless at that point.
Oooor Europe can siege all the US bases in our territory and see if the US people wants to have the soldiers going back home in plastic bags.
Please do.
You have a monster breathing down your neck, in your own backyard, and you Europeans are too cowardly to do anything about it. But you will, somehow, find the gumption to besiege American military bases?
Some of you people have the geopolitical sophistication of a 6th grader.
Spoken like someone who's never seen the destruction of war before.
Remind me - when did "terrorist" attacks in US spike, supply lines targeted, and Americans generally being on edge knowing some groups from Middle East are out to get them?
Now, that was with small portion of Middle East. Now we're talking about pissing off entirety of European Union and anyone who works for NATO and has capabilities to fuck shit up. I guarantee you people will risk their lives to fuck up your life (well, not yours specifically, but you get the idea - anger towards Americans) if you try to take steal from me or my friends/allies
I never meant my comment as an open war, but rather .. well, quite literally people fighting back in every way they can.
They'd have to nuke it to kill everyone. And if you don't then people will fight back.
Maybe America will win but not a single occupying soldier will be able to sleep unguarded for fear of being murdered in their sleep, not to mention terrorist attacks in America.
America hasn't ever won a war where it wasn't assisted massively by a cohort of other countries, except when the other other belligerent was also America, and even then it lost half of them.