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Updated to remove Bakunin and Chomsky

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[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

oh yea? and where is your source then? and on what? Russian invasion? or the genocide? you are defending a guy who hung out with epstein on his little plane.

He is not your friend.

[–] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Chomsky sat on an airplane, and criticized NYT reporting on atrocities in Cambodia.

Neither are bad acts.

His position on the Russian invasion is a standard leftist position, which includes a proper criticism of US imperialism and NATO expansion as antecedents of the war, in contrast to the US nationalist position of demonizing and blaming Putin, while also denying or glorifying US and NATO expansion.

Your information is not accurate, and your judgments are not thoughtful.

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

ah yes ofcourse - Evil nato expansion is why russia had to "defend itself"

which is not a "standard leftist talking point". it's a standard tankie point. Nato expansion was very very wanted. polands entire foreign policy was around getting it. US didnt even wanna expand.

problem with that point is simple. It's not a reason to invade and kill people. US is bad yes, but why the fuck is US bad when Russia invades? it's an excuse for war. excuse for imperialism.

Looks like I gave up explaining tho 🤷 at this point I dont think either of us were trying. Enjoy thinking chomsky is worth defending.

[–] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 hours ago

States always protect their own interests. It is the fact of their nature. Complaining about it, or attacking those who express such an understanding, is counterproductive.

NATO expansion was wanted by European governments, many of them right wing, in order for an opportunity to share in the fruits of US imperialism. NATO expansion is very much tied to the military-industrial complex, which seeks to expand the sales of weaponry manufactured in the US. The weapons purchased by other states contributes to the burden of the working class in such states, who provide the labor that funds such sales.

The inevitable effects of the expansion has been to escalate geopolitical tensions, which, as plainly seen before our eyes with the devastation in Ukraine, has been profoundly harmful to the working class.

Insistence that the US has no intrinsic will to expand, but is compelled otherwise, is absurd beyond imagination. The US is the global imperialist hegemon, with interference in very corner of the world, including military bases in dozens of countries. I am sorry, but such a claim in particular is one you should reconsider seriously.