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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 31 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Yes, but you see, the US is on their side, which means they're the bad guys.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago
[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

On the one hand, sure, the people there should watch out for the possibility that the US or similar tries to get a government satisfactory to them installed if the current one falls.

But on the other hand, it's not like there's any mechanism, in a revolution, to collectively declare "you're not allowed to support us" and have it stick. So if all it takes for a revolution to be illegitimate is the US to declare itself in favor, then the US has the power to delegitimize any revolution it wishes without recourse, which doesn't make much sense.

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 0 points 7 hours ago

My personal problem with this is that we're not talking about ANY country but specifically about the current US admin which has recently, shitting on all international rules, declared itself to be above international law and kidnapped an foreign leader (yes, he was dictator, but for international laws to be valuable they must treat EVERYONE equal... not only the ones deemed worthy by the biggest bully in the yard). Since this isn't the first wave of protests but the first one to, apparently, get inhumanely bloody in this magnitude one obvious key factor differing this one from the previous ones is the openly hostile and antidemocratic US admin taking power one year ago.

Taking this factors into consideration it seems highly questionable weather these protests will lead to an overall better situation for the Iranian people... and this outcome would be the only one justifying the blood shed.

People don't want to repeat their mistake of blindly cheering revolutions just for them to turn into even worse dictatorships afterwards... like it happened in many countries after Arabian spring. Hence the skepticism and caution in my eyes is more a sign of an ability to learn from past mistakes... especially since this time a foreign nation isn't ,,secondarily involved" but repeatedly made actual threats to destabilize the nation in question and is actively threatening with war, not for the people but to fill its own pockets and demonstrate its power.

[–] _chris@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Hey man, a broken clock is right twice a day.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 45 minutes ago

More like once a week, but yes.

[–] evol@lemmy.today 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Its funny since lots of revolutions only really succeeded due to another state actor involved. Imagine being against the Haitian revolution because you think its just some psyop by the Americans to harm the French

edit: To clarify the I don't know if the Haitians NEEDED the US, but the US did help

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 46 minutes ago

Honestly, I think that's true for most of them.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Its funny since lots of revolutions only really succeeded due to another state actor involved.

Everyone give it up for America's favorite fighting Frenchman!

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

Immigrants get the job done. As an aside though Lafayette was kind of badass.