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My opinion: America will split in half. We are two peoples now - one who has willingly become Morlocks, the other a society of at least decent and somewhat intelligent people.
I personally no longer see members of MAGA as fellow Americans. They are the flesh of an enemy nation, who would gladly ravage humanity for their pleasure.
At least, hopefully, "members of MAGA" doesn't actually include everyone who was ignorant/misinformed enough to vote for him.
This is, of course, no excuse for the vote.
But you're going to need all the help you can get.
the problem is we can't - there's blue bits in red seas and red bits in blue chunks. it's ideological not geographic.
I don't disagree with the need, I just can't see the how.
That was also the case in the 1st American Civil War. Ken Burn's documentary went over that, there was a lot of musical chairs as communities and individuals tried to figure things out.
The first year of a second civil war, will mostly be confusion.
your expectations that the next civil war will somehow match up to the previous one is so strange. what in the actual fuck do you think, there's no slave states anymore, who's gonna take control of federal army units and assets?
a century and a half has passed - none of those places are the same as 1860, few of the populations are the same as 1860, and the country spans the continent now and beyond.
For both the War of Independence and the 1st American Civil War, the loyalty of populations were mixed from the outset. For that matter, most civil wars start out like that.
Just because someone is in the federal military, doesn't mean that they necessarily have loyalty to King Trump. A fair chunk of the US's military have loyalties to oaths, their states, and life experiences. They are people. Some will indeed serve a malicious federal government out of apathy or to fulfill evil desires, but many will feel betrayed or believe that their homes are what they served to protect.
Being part of the federal military, doesn't turn people into mindless drones. They and those assets they control, will find their way towards likeminded people.
The chaos of a civil war is not ahistorical, it is simply a part of life when a nation shatters.
cool cool cool, you seem to have it all figured out and aren't going to listen to anyone else anyway so good luck with that
I read my history books, listened to history videos and podcasts. I have had plenty of 'anyone else', over the years, just not YOU. Because your position doesn't resemble history nor reality.
That's cute.
I studied military history and military science in university and was in the military, both active duty and national guard.
You're a fantastic example of the gap between 'thinks they know what they're talking about' and 'has actually humped a ruck, shot a ma deuce, moved an armor division, and provided comms for entire operations'.
I wish there was some way to impart this, but am sick of retyping: the next civil war will not resemble the past civil war, it's an entirely new and different equation with completely different variables.
Just the distribution of forces alone. But also the makeup of the military. And the command and control capabilities.
they had telegraphs. that's as fast as information could move. trust me when I tell you times have changed.
or don't. gonna block you now so I don't have to endure any more of your sillyness
Oh God I hope the south splits