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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Part of being “white” is getting to decide who is “white.” This is only possible because “white” is a completely made up category. We shouldn’t even engage with the term.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fair point but it's so deeply rooted. Don't we have to engage with it to some extent in order to eliminate it?

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ll just let my comment above stand as an example of how I think it should be engaged with. You can recognize that it’s a fantasy people have without participating in the fantasy.

[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s true that white is a made up term made to justify owning slaves and on that front it’s a meaningless way to group many different ethnicities. On the other hand as a white person I have to acknowledge that I am lumped in that group. I have privileges, and responsibilities because of it and there are social groups and spaces that are not for me. I can’t absolve myself of being white by saying white isn’t real.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I agree. It’s not about absolution. It’s about breaking down a culturally constructed instrument of oppression by refusing to participate in it. I can’t tell the world to stop treating me better because they think I’m white, which I believe is part of your point. But we do what we can, when we can, with knowledge of what we can and can’t.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

Old English saying "The wogs begin at Calais."

Meaning if you aren't English you really aren't White.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Irish immigrants, of all people, weren't considered white until like the mid 1900s.