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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

so, here's an incredible cross sections scan of the v-150 cannon on hoth:

The cannons are absolute beasts. Don't get me wrong.

We don't actually know how big the thing is, at least not directly. We do have a scene with a golan df.9 turret (the stubby tower ones, not the dish turrets,) is next to it. those are 4 meters in height In the screen grab of the ion cannon. guestimating the height behind the snow drift, I make the ball 6 df.9's in diameter. 8, if I ignore the base and go with whats seen, and ignoring the actual barrel thingies. (that's another df.9.)

So for surface installation (Ball turret plus the reactor core that's under the ball,) I'd make it needing something between 48 to 64 meters in over all length, and 24 to 36 meters in cylindrical space.

this wouldn't be that hard to bolt on to something like a GR-75, which is 90 meters long, and mostly just cargo racks. Keep in mind they had to get all that equipment there in the first place, and these aren't the kind of things you're building in place, it might be broken down into some submodules, but you're not breaking them down into component parts.

if a GR-75 isn't large enough, (maybe because the reactor core isn't... a reactor core? and needs "base" power.) Then the Imperial Container Ship certainly is (and incredibly easy to steal.) You can actually build that thing out to something that resembles a mobile operations base, to be honest. (the internals of the cargo stack are all shirt-sleeve habitation, apparently,)

Both ships have an advantage here in that they would be rather easy to modify into hauling something other than containers, and including possibly something outsized like the ion cannon. basically becoming a system defense monitor (slow, big guns, and mobile only the sense that, sure, it technically can shuffle off.)

You could do a few things with it. use it concert in lightling raids- it doesn't come deep into the envelope, but it hits the biggies from range. Probably after a recon flight pops in and gives targets, it can jump in and start blasting with lighter things coming in to do whatever. fighters, bombers, etc.

alternatively, drop it in orbit and let it hang out where it can cover an escape and shuffle off on it's own. (bonus points for everything else being space-based and not planet-side.)

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean think about some alien reading a story about our modern military and the rebels have a patriot missile system. The alien is like I don't get why they don't strap these to a boat instead of using them on land. You see where Im going with the idea of strapping that thing that seems to be built down several stories into the ground and being like. They should just strap that to a cargo ship.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

So, here’s the thing.

That’s not a great analogy. The MIM-104 Patriot missile system is still providing vital and necessary functionality on a daily basis.

It’s also mobile in the exact same way I’m suggesting the V-150 could (and should,) be.

And finally, the reason they haven’t done that is because there’s plenty of other options like the RIM-174, which we also gave them. (But I’m not so sure it’s as vital. That’s a high bar to cross.)

As for its size, yeah. It’s huge. But you’re comparing that to earth construction. Star Wars always went big. For example the Lucrehulk freighter (which they used for a pilot training academy,)

That thing was large enough that pretty much every they brought to Hoth could fit on it and access with all the same capability as echo base itself. With room to spare. They probably wouldn’t even need to give up the flight academy!

The point being, it’s not unreasonable to suggest they could just literally do that- strap it to an appropriately sized freighter.

Like i mentioned before: they had to get it there somehow, and it’s not the type of thing you’d just build in place. (They stole it and several other cannons, after all.)