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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

the dictatorship is capitalism here in the US. it also can’t be voted out.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

lol... all the best countries in the world have capitalism

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...so do all the worst countries in the world. In fact, all the countries have it. That's the problem.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the worst country in the world is north korea and it's communist, so you could have it worse

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If they were communist in more than name, their proletariat wouldn't be starving to death while their rulers get fat.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Every implementation of "communism" back to lenin, stalin, and mao has been "communism in name only."

Lenin literally instructed the bolsheviks to kill all the soviets after he lost an election to them, so that he could seize power and install puppets in their positions.

If you actually read marx, communism was supposed to be a democratic system governed by what are essentially workers unions. Lenin and trotsky are where it veered off course.

And I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass. When I argue with tankies they call me a capitalist simply because I reject their bolshevism. Believe it or not, nuanced and well-informed takes are allowed on the internet.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They sure are! The only problem is you've just tried to convince the one person on this forum who doesn't give a shit about communism

I live in Australia, it's fuckin amazing,there's no need for communism here m8

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's great and all, but anyone in the Middle-class or above tend to be complacent with capitalist systems even when most of the value they produce by their labor gets syphoned and hoarded by the owner-class, and doled out to the c-suite in huge bonuses, while your pay and benefits packages stagnate.

Also ignoring constantly rising prices and enshittification due to corporate greed and "infinite growth" mentality, constantly trying to maximize profits and never accepting a stable system as "good enough."

There are a lot of problems with capitalism when you really dig into it, and not all of its problems are limited to only effecting the poor.

But if you live in a nation with public healthcare and education funded by taxpayer dollars, congratulations! You're benefiting from elements of socialism.

Under a purely capitalist system, those things would be privatized and commodified like they are in the US. You know, that renowned american healthcare and education... that's capitalism in a nutshell.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Under a purely capitalist system, those things would be privatized and commodified like they are in the US. You know, that renowned american healthcare and education…

Yes I'm very well aware of the problems of America, you guys literally won't shut the fuck up about them 😩

I'd argue it represents a bigger problem with democracy than capitalism though, the only reason you don't have universal healthcare and education is because your countries voters don't want it

If they did they would have elected representatives who do and implemented it

Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not all countries have the power our oligarchs have. They're trying everywhere, but they have succeeded in the US.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is just blame shifting, you could have voted for Kamala, you voted for Trump, this is not anyone elses fault, nor is it capitalisms which functions perfectly well in hundreds of countries

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And you could kick out Rupert Murdock, but you personally haven't, so I guess that's your fault.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

sure, I guess I better start blaming capitalism for all my woes now

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I was not the one who passed Citizens United.

I was not the one who set up Fox News and right-wing radio as propaganda outlets.

I was not the one who chose to make the Republicans work with Evangelicals to push wedge issues.

I was not the one who bought up all the media outlets to push Republican propaganda.

But sure, put all the blame on me when I've done my part to vote, try and convince others to vote, protested some when I could which hasn't been all that much. I even have a wikipedia page because of something I did in 2009 to try and help.

But keep on blaming me and not the fascists and not the oligarchs who actually orchestrated this thing if it makes you feel better about yourself.

Are you happy with yourself now for blaming me? Do you feel better?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i don’t understand how you went from understanding “you” to mean america and now you’re typing “you” as in you personally ?

obviously you are not the sole reason trump is elected

it is your country that decided that collectively

To me infantising them as if they accidentally fell for republican garbage like they would totally have voted for kamala if not for some reason is just excuses

most countries have right wing groups, we have skynews here in Australia as a right wing propaganda outlet, and plenty of shadow organisations like advance

we also have a bat shit lady pauline hanson running her party to lead australia

just if she gets in don’t expect me to complain about fox news, the internet, capitalism, oligarchs or something

it would simply be what the people of australia wanted

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It could've been. But dumbfucks threw a tantrum over Harris.

This is on their heads. Never let it be forgotten.

[–] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 9 points 3 days ago

While Harris would have been an objectively better president than trump, I don’t think voting for her would have voted out capitalism…

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

don’t forget: the ppl who voted 3rd party.

even if they voted for harris she still would have lost. she did a piss poor job at her campaign. if the primary actually picked her instead of joe dropping she’d likely have done much better.