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Israeli forces have killed a Palestinian couple and two of their children as they drove in the occupied West Bank, according to the Palestinian health authorities, with the Israeli military saying the incident is under review.

Ali Khaled Bani Odeh, 37, his 35-year-old wife Waad, and two of their children – Mohammad and Othman, aged five and seven, respectively – were shot in the head in the village of Tammun on Sunday. Two of their other children were wounded by shrapnel, according to Palestinian health authorities.

Speaking to the Reuters news agency at the hospital, Khaled, 12, one of the two surviving boys, said he heard his mother crying, his father praying, but no voice of any of his other brothers before silence prevailed after shots sprayed the car.

“We came under direct fire; we didn’t know the source. Everyone in the car was ⁠martyred, except my brother Mustafa and me,” the boy said.

He said soldiers, who ⁠pulled him out of the vehicle before beating him, shouted: “We killed dogs.”

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

True, but that's not relevant here.

Israel doesn't commit genocide because Jews and Muslims can't get along. Israel commits genocide because it's a fascist apartheid state.

Apartheid South Africa used religion as one of their "reasons" for treating nonwhite people as subhuman too, but no reasonable person would claim that THEIR countless atrocities were primarily caused by religion either.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Its genocidal ideology is rooted in religious fanaticism.

Incidentally, all fascism works just like religion, except by sanctifying the state with iconography and dogmas of demagoguery and rebirth.

Fascism is a kind of religion, and the organized variety of the latter softens up the population for the former.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its genocidal ideology is rooted in religious fanaticism

No, it's rooted in the political ideology of colonialism. There's significant overlap, sure, but that DOESN'T make colonialism a religious thing.

In fact, Israel is an excellent example of how irreligious the foundation of colonialism is: even though the religion is different than those of other colonial projects, the basic justifications, deflections, and modes of government are essentially similar.

If colonialism had been about religion, Jewish supremacist apartheid would have been MUCH more different than the Protestant and Catholic white supremacist colonialism og the past.

Incidentally, all fascism works ~~just like~~ somewhat similarly to religion

Fixed it for you. While there's far too much overlap for comfort, there are still significant differences between a religious cult and a political cult such as Fascism

by sanctifying the state with iconography and dogmas of demagoguery and rebirth.

Not really, no. It's more about collapsing state authority, religion, societal norms, and bogeymen into one easy to inhale but extremely difficult to expel poison.

Fascism is a kind of religion

Nope. It has several things in common with and is almost always working in concert with religion, but it is not itself a religion.

the organized variety of the latter softens up the population for the former.

That's accurate, though. You can't be a fascist without being extremely reactionary, and organized religion is probably the biggest source of reactionary thinking in existence.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You’re right that all evil ideologies, from colonialism to religious persecution, share underlying normative features. I was merely commenting on the fact that this particular act of colonialism is, in fact, religious, since the chief justification offered by these genocidal maniacs is religious.

I also want to reiterate that fascism and all religious activity is literally cultism, all rooted in various collective fantasies. We can certainly pull these things apart by getting technical (of course). Kinda beside the point.

[–] S491@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you read the works of the early zionists going back to hertzal, you will see that most if not all of them were atheists that held absolute contempt for religious Jews. They saw them as weak for clinging to what they thought was an inferior culture and superstitions. In fact the only jews they hated more than the religious eastern European jews were the arab jews that were in around the levant.

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well yeah, but they were still religious. Their religion was just zionist supremacy. Like Judaism is the belief of Jewish supremacy.