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"Oh, look, those people aren't obeying the law! If we do things as bad as their worst, things will get better!"
Do you think the Germans would have surrendered if they were certain that every thing they had done to the Jews would be visited on them? Why wouldn't they fight to the last man, causing each side to pay in millions more deaths?
Netanyahu can be stopped without committing atrocities. Committing atrocities in return just means neither side will have any incentive to stop. The rules of warfare aren't there to protect the weaker side, they're there to give an alternative to fighting until one side or the other is utterly destroyed. And if your response is, "Well, I'm okay with destroying all the fascists," then you first have to identify all the fascists. This isn't something simple like blue eyes or straight hair. Even if you could kill every fascist, that still wouldn't mean that you couldn't have more. The belief isn't genetic.
W8 w8 w8.. I'm just in favor of going the wood chipper route for the top brass and soldiers who were caught saying things like "we just killed dogs", see what happens next, i would assume that in general shit behavior from israel would stop. I'm not saying that all the people of Israel should go to the wood chipper, there are plenty of people that protest and are against the current way of Israel government
plus, you should really come to terms with the idea that some people in the world are really bad and respect nothing but force, putin is one clear example, do you think you can come to terms with him without force? angela merkl serve him and his friends (oligarchs) a full plate by building the pipeline for russian oil/gas to supply central europe, it was the deal of a lifetime, guess what? they accumulated wealth for some years and then shit on the plate and now he's playing imperialist sending all his people into the meat grinder and now even recruiting foreigners -.-
also, germans surrendered because hitler committed suicide when his capital was surrounded with no escape and his soldiers were still dying on the streets defending said capital, they didn't go to the last soldier but got close to it
we can kid ourselves and think everyone is empathetic and sensible, but unfortunately that's not the truth, some people are murderers/egomaniacs/warmongers who only understand force.. these need the guillotine or wood chipper
Yeah, it's not okay to commit atrocities on war criminals, or any other criminals, either. There are more humane ways to kill people if that's what is going to be done. Torturing them before or during isn't necessary or helpful.
I'm more than okay with using necessary force to deal with bad actors. But do you honestly think if you say to Putin or Netanyahu, "If you don't stop we're going to strip you of wealth, power and freedom," is going to have noticeably less impact than saying, "If you don't stop we're going to strip you of wealth, power and freedom, as well as torture you when we kill you?"
As for the German surrender, 1.5 million Axis soldiers surrendered in a single month before Germany surrendered. 800k German soldiers surrendered in the four months prior to Germany's surrender. How likely do you think that would have been if word got out (and it would) that surrender led to summary execution, let alone torture?
Again, I've never said force, war, or death aren't options for dealing with atrocities. I said atrocities shouldn't be. And atrocities start with dehumanizing your enemies.