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"Even within the coding, it's not working well," said Smiley. "I'll give you an example. Code can look right and pass the unit tests and still be wrong. The way you measure that is typically in benchmark tests. So a lot of these companies haven't engaged in a proper feedback loop to see what the impact of AI coding is on the outcomes they care about. Lines of code, number of [pull requests], these are liabilities. These are not measures of engineering excellence."

Measures of engineering excellence, said Smiley, include metrics like deployment frequency, lead time to production, change failure rate, mean time to restore, and incident severity. And we need a new set of metrics, he insists, to measure how AI affects engineering performance.

"We don't know what those are yet," he said.

One metric that might be helpful, he said, is measuring tokens burned to get to an approved pull request – a formally accepted change in software. That's the kind of thing that needs to be assessed to determine whether AI helps an organization's engineering practice.

To underscore the consequences of not having that kind of data, Smiley pointed to a recent attempt to rewrite SQLite in Rust using AI.

"It passed all the unit tests, the shape of the code looks right," he said. It's 3.7x more lines of code that performs 2,000 times worse than the actual SQLite. Two thousand times worse for a database is a non-viable product. It's a dumpster fire. Throw it away. All that money you spent on it is worthless."

All the optimism about using AI for coding, Smiley argues, comes from measuring the wrong things.

"Coding works if you measure lines of code and pull requests," he said. "Coding does not work if you measure quality and team performance. There's no evidence to suggest that that's moving in a positive direction."

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[–] luciole@beehaw.org 37 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is all fine and dandy but the whole article is based on an interview with "Dorian Smiley, co-founder and CTO of AI advisory service Codestrap". Codestrap is a Palantir service provider, and as you'd expect Smiley is a Palantir shill.

The article hits different considering it's more or less a world devourer zealot taking a jab at competing world devourers. The reporter is an unsuspecting proxy at best.

[–] calliope@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

People will upvote anything if it takes a shot at AI. Even when the subtitle itself is literally an ad.

Codestrap founders say we need to dial down the hype and sort through the mess

The cult mentality is really interesting to watch.

Keep replying! Maybe this is a good honeypot for stupid people. “I hate you!!” Lmao

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I can hate more than one thing at a time. AI, Palantir and you for being so pretentious.

[–] calliope@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Me: This is an ad, it’s crazy that people will engage in something that’s clearly an ad, they’re feeding right into it. It’s a cult mentality.

You: I hate you!! SCREEEE

You couldn’t have proved my point more. Someone even upvoted you because it was a shot at AI. The cult is so strong you can’t even tell you’re in it.

I’m glad you have an outlet for your impotent rage, but do you have to be so pathetic? Your mental age is showing.

I’ll take pretentious though, because I am better than you.