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    [–] Balinares@pawb.social 76 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I studied at the PR in question and that's not the conclusion I arrive at. Let me try to explain how this looks to me.

    Also keep in mind, I do think we absolutely need to keep the political pressure on and push back on identity-gating policies with all our collective might. In that light the PR itself does the two things I'd absolutely require here: one, it allows the user to put whatever value they want in that field, including none at all, and two, it disallows all apps from reading that field without the user's active permission.

    Basically it's a superficially valid implementation of a bullshit requirement that still leaves all the power in the user's hands and therefore renders the requirement meaningless. Or in other words, a huge middle finger to the proponents of age-checking.

    Mind you, I feel there's also value in loud non-compliance and I'm glad some are taking that road -- keep it up, folks. But I'm leery of demands that only one single approach be taken. This needs to be fought on every front we can. And to me the PR in question reads like an effective defensive move.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    That's something I wondered about the person who implemented this too, I wonder if it was an attempt to install a bare minimum to say "There. We did it. Leave us alone." Instead of leaving it up to the government to force the issue, and he's getting absolutely raked over the coals for it.

    If that's the case, I feel terribly bad about this backfiring so hard on him. I do think we should be putting up a lot more resistance before resorting to something like this though.

    [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Some others have also suggested that this was done out of spite, however after reading the github I didn’t see anything said to support that. Are you sure you’re not reading something into this that’s not there?

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I'll be honest I haven't dug into the GitHub transcripts.

    Are you sure you’re not reading something into this that’s not there?

    Absolutely not sure! In fact my first inclination leans towards the cynical "This is totally a pro-authoritarian virtue signal move." Because that's seemingly everything nowadays.

    But also I know things are seldom as they first seem. So I'm at least curious about this guy's actual motives. Coming out of nowhere just for this contribution is hecka sus though.

    I don't like any of it. I looked to the Internet and open source to escape that petulant normie-verse of endless rage and braindead legislation. And they're coming to assimilate us like they do everything else. :(

    [–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Coming out of nowhere just for this contribution is hecka sus though.

    I’m fairly sure this is the first systemd pull request that many here have viewed. I wouldn’t say we’re coming out of nowhere.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Sorry I didn't articulate myself well here at all.

    What I meant was, I've heard this particular contributor's history is slim to none, and suddenly he shows up and PR's this age form into the kernel.

    That's what's weird.

    You're exactly right, most of us probably haven't looked at kernel PRs. Such a major component in such a major project isn't really a "My first contribution" territory, right?

    So it should raise some eyebrows when this guy just pops up and PRs it and it gets merged so quick.

    I'm not the most brilliant at this stuff so I'm happily open to being educated here if I'm way off, though.

    [–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

    Yeah I see your point. I feel like it's entirely reasonable, though. Like those who went to the PR, they saw something in the news and decided to do something about it with their abilities, throwing aside whether that's good for a moment. I certainly would not call the optional JSON schema for user records a critical component especially as no existing fields were modified, just new ones.

    (And FWIW it's systemd, very different from the kenrel, though I do feel like you know what you meant to talk about. systemd's code quality is relatively notorious anyways.)

    [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I agree that not everything is what it seems at first, I just fear it’s wishful thinking in this case.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

    Yeah, I fear you're right. Evidence doesn't point to benevolence here.