The latest changes implemented in the Systemd repo, related to or prompted by age-verification laws, have made many people unhappy (I suppose links about this aren't necessary). This has led to a surge in Systemd forks during the last days ("surge" because there have always been plenty of forks). Here are some forks that explicitly mention those changes as their reason for forking (rough time ordering taken from the fork page):
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paramazo/systemd "The systemd System and Service Manager without age verification"
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ganitam/systemd "Systemd fork just before the Age Verification addition. Hoping more capable developers and maintainers do same.."
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GSYT-Productions/systemd-fork "The systemd System and Service Manager, without the stupid Age Verification"
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speedythesnail/unret arded-systemd "The systemd System and Service Manager, without the ret arded age-verification commits"
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ta13579/systemd "The systemd System and Service Manager WITHOUT THE FUCKING AGE CHECKS"
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r4shsec/systemd-no-age-verification "This is systemd but without the age verification made via pull request https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40978"
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Pingasmaster/fightthesystemd "Systemd without the nonsense: no age verification, no lighthouse built-in."
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Jeffrey-Sardina/system "Liberated systemd -- no surveillance. Ever."
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HaplessIdiot/systemd-saneagecheck "The systemd System and Service Manager with age verification bypass and polling rate options for said feature"
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Queer-Coded-LGBTQ/systemd-fuck-california "The systemd System and Service Manager, but without age bs added in."
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Codiak540/unshitted-systemd "A fork of systemd aiming to strip the Age verification. Sue me california."
Hopefully the energy of this reaction won't be scattered among too many alternatives, although some amount of scattering is always good.
That is not the point. If it was so logical to add, why add it now, when you know it is controversial? The devs are aware of the controversy, they have made a political decision to do it this way. At the very least, they could've handled it with more care - as sensitive matters should. Turning a blind eye and pretending this is business as usual is very insulting. To me at least, and I'm sure to most who care. If you do this during "the surveillance state paranoia", you have to be aware you are contributing to more of it.
Because raging autist nerds get upset about minor changes all the time. They mostly make a lot of noise, but don’t actually provide the foresight or insight they believe. The Linux culture is filled with them and has held back Linux for decades with their uncompromising radicalism.
You can always have your shitty forks and weird distros for fanatics. Just let other people be productive and practical.
This has happened so many times by now. It’s very destructive behavior and lots of wasted energy.
As an autistic nerd without true technological and historical expertise, it's very difficult to know what to think and disheartening to read others' perspectives on this because instead of measured discussion, there is "bootlicker" and "surveillance state paranoia" being thrown around to dismiss the other side's ideas and holy shit am I sick of the hostility and personal attacks here. I think both sides are plausible, don't know which one is right, and it seems Lemmy is not going to be able to help me decide which one is more plausible.
I really hope you didn't mean "raging autist nerds" in the derogatory 4chan way where a disability I didn't choose to have is an insult, where people having strong emotions over a niche topic is something bad to mock and insult. Language is language, not everyone who has goodwill/is neutral towards a population knows the correct inoffensive language, etc. etc. but I have to admit "autist" in combination with its use in a phrase referring to people you don't like, whose diagnosis status you don't know, really makes me draw unpleasant conclusions.
I guess maybe this is a lesson that no matter how knowledgeable I think public forum users are, heated topics will include people being dismissive and insulting others unless there is very heavy moderation in place to keep things civil, and that I have to find somewhere else to find knowledgeable people giving their interpretation of information.
I agree to some degree, but I think the issue of age verification is beyond this point. Yes, Linux users tend to be much nerdier and reactive than the general public. But they are the ones who use linux in the first place. Whether they gatekeep linux from others is another story, but the devs should know their audience by now - and hopefully care. And what's more - a lot of idealists (I wouldn't call them autistic, though that may be a factor) hate systemd in the first place. They already dont use it or don't want to use it. So the ones that do, I argue, are more mainstream. I am one of them. I don't want to go back to sysvinit and write a script for each new service. I also know that this doesn't end here. Today they add the field, tomorrow, some mainstream browser will depend on it existing and the frog will be boiled. Now it is not an API, but it's added in case anybody needs it. So you didn't even have to add it. And they didn't add a gender field in case anybody needed it, for example. Yes, Linux community would probably start arguing about that, but not nearly as much IMO. I think this is far more mainstream issue than you give it credit, honestly.