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This is a pragmatic piece of Fowler on the rather dry topic of Object-relational mappings - in short, the attempt to marry an object-oriented code base with a relational data base.

Usually you'd get enough early success to commit deeply to the framework and only after a while did you realize you were in a quagmire - this is where I sympathize greatly with Ted Neward's famous quote that object-relational mapping is the Vietnam of Computer Science

What Fowler refers to here, is Ted Neward's article "The Vietnam Of Computer Science"

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[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a little more nuanced than that.

I will gladly write my own small, half-assed framework that I 100% know, can reason about, can debug, and can extend to fit my requirements. I will gladly pass on a fat-assed, bloated framework with a million dependencies, where I only need a few features, and where if I need something that isn't offered by the framework I have to submit a PR or add some janky-ass workaround.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That is fine for your personal projects. It stops being fine as soon as you need to hire extra people and grow the team.

[–] Tempy@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does it, if you can work on the normal application code, there's no reason you can't work on the lower levels of applications. It's all just code. Ramp up might take a bit more time, but I wouldn't expect horrendously so. As long as your patterns make sense and what is there is written well enough and is not a spaghetti monster in the making, any one should be able to pick it up.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 8 hours ago

That's a big "if" in your last sentence. You underestimate how bad most people in the field are.

[–] inzen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)