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Nextcloud, Ionos and other partners are developing an open-source office suite under the project name „Euro-Office“ as an alternative to the market-dominant Microsoft Office.

The two partners are not starting from scratch, but have forked the components of OnlyOffice available as open-source code and want to build on them. In the summer, the software is then intended to replace the previous office component Collabora in Nextcloud and the Ionos Nextcloud Workspace. A ‘technical preview’ is already available on GitHub.

While this is a good news, I think they should move from github, you know microslop copilot..

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[–] froh42@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because the Only Office source is more modern while Libre Offices's source code now is around 35 years old. At least that was the reasoning in one of the articles I read.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

So old code is now suddenly bad? Weird and somewhat also not the case, as LibreOffice is constantly updated.

I guess it is a preference. I for myself tend to rather use a FreeBSD than Fedora for production environments.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 2 points 9 hours ago

Guess we should all stop using cell phones too, the erlang that powers them is old as dirt and therefore must be bad.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

So old code is now suddenly bad?

Yes. It must go stale without some kind of needless churn; right?

I loved solving a problem that redhat cant fix (because the smart people left) on their theForeman clone with a workaround that I learned from the days of NIS+. A 30-year-old workaround for last year's shitty install.

But fear of established, known-good code will certainly change that in the long run: ifconfig, netstat, ifup, fstab, xinet, service; the more we can churn out the working tools for neu dreck coded by dunning-kruger lost-boys kids who had no mentoring to prevent dumb patterns, the less the working solutions for known-good tools will work. And that's, some how, "progress".

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 28 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Sometimes it is better to start fresh.

Especially when you want to be the owner of something.

Libre has 35 years of good, bad, and the ugly. It's has 35 years of tech debt, and design choices made. That's not easy to just "fix"

It's a completely different beast to sift through legacy code than it is to just start fresh requiring a completely separate set of skills.

Not getting rid of the old is one of the many reason Windows is such a shit show. Every program today in 2026 asks itself "Am I Barbie Riding Club(1996)? Before it runs because it needs a special compatibility mode". Why inherit among the million other issues if you don't want to?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Bet they are not starting fresh. Instead of using 35 year old code base they are using 20 year old code base.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 18 hours ago

You are certainly right at this point. To be honest, I have never looked at the source of LibreOffice and it might be a huge mess. Additionally, the maintainers need to be somewhat cooperative. I could imagine that this is also a problem (developing many years of FOSS makes your personality really toxic unfortunately)

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Libre is rooted a bit in 90s design, with an OO object model designed to roughly mirror Microsoft 's COM/DCOM. I'm sure Libre has seen a lot of modernization - and I want that codebase to survive. But it's also nice to have a second option, now.

[–] axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Old isn't necessarily bad, unless years of decision-making have left it in a massively complex state (see also: Xorg)

The real reason here is that LibreOffice is written in C++, which is falling rapidly out of fashion for modern apps, leading to a smaller supply of developers.

Contrast this with Onlyoffice. Yes, the document engine is still written in C++, however the build tools use more modern items like python and onlyoffice supports having Javascript frontends and scripting, making it easier to source web devs to work on these parts.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 18 hours ago

I am not sure if this is the real reason. C++ is still a very valid option. People used to low level languages can rather easy switch the language they are writing in.

Maybe one day we will find out the real reason.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Technical debt is a thing. Everyone says Xorg is too old to be maintained so we have to switch to Wayland for example. I don't know the state of Libre Office but it's possible it simply can't be easily migrated to newer, better tools.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Not the same issue. Wayland was needed because xorg architecture just cannot be backwards compatible and would be super difficult risky to retain legacy. Not the same issue here

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

Of course this is a matter of how well the maintainers took care of tech debt. Additionally, architectural changes are often not possible or only if you put a lot of effort in it.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You got that backwards. Its open office that hasnt been updated in years.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Huh, I didnt realize that was an actual product and not just a mistake.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Only Office is a Russian thing. Euro Office takes all the open source parts of Only Offices, forks them and rewrites stuff only handled by binary blobs.

It's a quite interesting project, freeing that half-open office suite.