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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For some of the people here who are going to yell out "but liberalism is bad and should die anyway!"

I've posted several comments in this thread, but I'll do one top level comment now, not directed at anyone in particular.

Liberal in this instance means socially progressive. Illiberalism as Orban called it, was about stopping the "liberal gay agenda". This is from American politics, where conservatives have started calling all progressives liberals. It has caught on in at least some Eastern European countries because our far-right leaders love mimicking the American far right Republican party. Putin is also spreading this shit, I've got a link somewhere to one of his quotes about liberalism destroying nations through "multiculturalism" or whatever. Essentially "liberals import the blacks and they destroy everything".

Illiberalism in this instance doesn't mean getting rid of the market economy or electoral system (necessarily). It means being bigoted.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Liberal in this instance means socially progressive.

Incorrect. The Atlantic is a zionist publication. Socially it's very regressive.

https://hrnews1.substack.com/p/the-atlantic-editor-in-chief-jeffrey

More importantly there's nothing to be gained by conflating liberalism with social progress. That's probably why they used the term "illiberal" in the first place - to muddy the waters. They don't want to talk about fascism because The Atlantic literally supports fascism.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 21 hours ago

funny is orban has funded at least the last CPAC, as intermediary from putin.