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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

Americans are sick of war, all he had to do was wave that carrot and he duped a LOT of voters.

When will voters learn? Look at their past performance and don't listen to anything they say. They are always full of shit.

  • Reagan~ I'm gonna close the border!
  • Bush~ Read my lips, no new taxes!
  • Clinton~ Universal healthcare!
  • Bush~ We're gonna lock up social security and and reform healthcare!
  • Obama~ Universal healthcare!
  • Trump~ I'm gonna build a big wall!
  • Biden~ Universal healthcare!
  • Trump~ I'm never going to war!

p.s. yes, I know, bOtH pArTiEs, I'm a Russian spy, etc.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 9 points 13 hours ago

To be fair, the republicans blocked the democrats on all of that. With the exception of Trump’s dumbass wall, the republicans broke their own promises.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sort of tough to have universal healthcare when republican congresses control the pursestrings.

[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago

Trump doesn't care about purse strings. Maybe the next Democrat should try just helping the people in spite of the Congress and Supreme Court?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'd never vote for trump. Ever. Under any circumstances. I did not vote for trump. Ever. I cannot stand his existence. To quote Tommy Lee Jones:

"I cannot sanction your baffoonary"

Unfortunately he was talking about Jim Carry, and not trump, but I stand behind that quote when talking about trump.

That being said, you say to judge politicians by their past behavior. In his first campaign, he said he was going to build a big wall. Which he did. Nevermind the fact that part of that wall already existed and has been being added to since the 1980s, but he did contract the continuation of that wall.

The problem is, he used cheap labor. He installed pillars to consist of the wall, and these pillars were hollow. They were easily pushed over using one hand, and at the end of the day, everything he built was easily demolished. But he DID have it built.

As far as war goes, I can remember saying in 2024 before the election, that I was unclear if Harris would or would not start a war. Whereas with trump, for all the bullshit he says and does, he's not particularly war minded. In 2024, itdidn't seem like war interested him.

Now I know today in 2026, that statement is very wrong. But at the time of the election it would have been hard to push the idea that trump is a war monger. Nothing he had previously done at that time would suggest war. I would have believed he'd bomb a country repeatedly, but everything we're seeing now, I would have not predicted.

All that being said, the point of this reply isn't pro-trump. It's simply meant to straighten out facts.

Also, Obama absolutely tried to bring universal healthcare. That was the original idea behind Obamacare.

Blame the republicans on that one. They vetod every single decent idea in the original bill.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Qasem Soleimani was killed by a drone strike in January 2020, ordered by Trump. Trump tried a coup in Venezuela, and installing Juan Guaidó as leader. Democrats supported that action, and was one of the few times Trump got a standing ovation from Democrats in his SOTU speech. The most civilians killed in Afghanistan, and the most bombs dropped on Afghanistan by the US was in 2019, under Trump. (To be fair, afaik there are no records prior to 2007.) Trump also dropped the MOAB on Afghanistan. In the first year of his presidency, he increased drone strikes about 430%(compared to Obama who set drone strike records himself) Trump also bombed Syria, and the newspeople had an orgasm over it on national TV. Trump's first military raid killed an American girl, an 8 year old(Obama killed her brother, 16 year old. They were children of a known terrorist) I'm sure I'm missing more examples, but those were a few.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

He just went and kidnapped a sitting president and then murdered another. If the rest of the world isn't worried about that I don't know what would.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Everything you just said is bombing. I literally said:

I would have believed he’d bomb a country repeatedly, but everything we’re seeing now, I would have not predicted.

Yes, we did bomb and kill Qasem Soleimani, but we didn't start a war.

Yes, we did bomb various places with drones, but we didn't start a war.

Bush started a war.

Even Clinton started a minor war.

But everything trump did in his first term, I wouldn't call warmongering. Everything in 2026 from him I WOULD call warmongering.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Under what circumstances could another country kill, say, Pete Hegseth with a bomb on American soil, and it not be considered an act of war? Bombs literally only have one purpose, a weapon of war. And yes, during that attempted(and failed) coup in Venezuela, there were technically boots on the ground. So even that's out of the window.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Under what circumstances could another country kill, say, Pete Hegseth with a bomb on American soil, and it not be considered an act of war?

I wouldn't consider it an act of war. An act of charity to the American people, maybe.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 4 hours ago

It would be nice if some country brought democracy to the US for a change. We would even welcome them as liberators.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say an act of war, I said a war. We did not go to war with Iran in 2020. We bombed them. We killed some of their political leaders. We did not go to war with them.

We have boots on the ground in basically every country on earth at all times. Are we at war with Mexico right now? We have boots on the ground, and have since at least the Reagan administration. Are we in a 40+ year war with Mexico?

I think you know damn well that 2026 Iran war is completely different than 2020 acts of war. I'm just not sure why you feel the need to try to use truthful but unrelated statements to spread misinformation.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Well, if you wanna get technical, the recent cartel violence that broke out in Mexico, it was revealed that 80% of the cartels weapons and straight-up military vehicles came from the US. So just like we're funding multiple factions in the Syria civil war, and I would definitely consider a war in Syria, you could easily make the case that the US is in war in Mexico the same way. The other 20% of the cartels weapons came from Israel, but that's a story for another day. "We bombed them, and killed some of their political leaders, we did not go to war with them" is a hell of a statement though, and would never pass the "shoe-on-other-foot" test.