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An 8-panel Phoebe Teaching Joey meme.

The first panel is Phoebe from Friends saying "Russia".

The second panel is Joey from the same show replying with "Russia".

The third panel is Phoebe saying "has invaded".

The fourth panel is Joey repeating back "has invaded".

The fifth panel is Phoebe saying "Ukraine".

The sixth panel is Joey repeating back "Ukraine".

The seventh panel is Phoebe saying the completed phrase "Russia has invaded Ukraine".

The final panel shows Joey proudly proclaiming "NATO just started a proxy war".

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[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ukraine isn't part of NATO

So?

Also, NATO should've been disbanded after the cold war

Why? The reason NATO still exists seems pretty self evident, a bunch of European countries seem like they want to be in a defense pact with the US, why could that possibly be.

Really shows the sincerity of working towards peace when you keep an antagonistic organization around looking for a purpose to justify their existence.

Russia could have avoided it by (and I know this sounds crazy) not invading their neighbors.

[–] hark@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The reason that NATO still exists is self-evident more than two decades after the end of the cold war? It took a while but they got themselves some job security, eh? It is a nice little grift they've got going, having the US mess about in foreign countries with the CIA, upsetting local powers, and then running to the rescue when those local powers get upset enough to invade. Of course, Russia could've not invaded Ukraine and let the US lure Ukraine over to the west purely through "soft" powers.

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Of course, Russia could've not invaded Ukraine and let the US lure Ukraine over to the west purely through "soft" powers.

Well, that would have involved hundreds of thousands fewer people dying and Ukrainians getting the thing they generally wanted, so... win win.

[–] hark@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and a massive loss from Russia's perspective. The US has invaded for much less.

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

See here's the thing: whether the US has done something before has no bearing on whether Russia is justified in doing it.

[–] hark@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

See here's the thing: I didn't say Russia is justified in doing what it is doing.

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Re read the original comment you replied to...