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Grug (caveman compression) of Qwen3.6-35 and 27B is good! (aussie.zone)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone to c/localllama@sh.itjust.works

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Hi all, if you've not heard, there's been a Caveman compression version of Qwen 3.6-27b and Qwen 3.6-35b-3ab.

https://huggingface.co/ProCreations/grug-27b-gguf

https://huggingface.co/ProCreations/grug-35b-v2

https://huggingface.co/ProCreations/grug-35b-v2-gguf

I've been playing around with 35B and I am able to run it on my ancient Quadro P1000 4gb at ~10tok/s.

But beyond that, the quality of the reasoning and the token discipline / output is actually higher than a stock, in my opinion.

You can read the benchmarks above; I am also uploading a HTML file here for your consideration.

(Sorry for the Limewire link; I dunno where else to share throw-away files. It's HTML, though the side by side probably works better if you actually download it)

Anyway...I'm doing more testing right now...but so far, this is a good cook.

Or -

Grug good. Me like.

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[–] trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Huh, does caveman just mean that it uses fewer fill words and less prosa, or does the output only look like that by chance?

I thought, I read at some point that the caveman models use some pseudo-language for their thinking tokens. If they waffle less, that would be much more interesting to me...

[–] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Both; it has internally reduced thinking tokens AND it's less verbose, so you get a boost on both prefill and print. I've benchmarked identical prompts and tool calls with stock Qwen 35B and Grug 35B; on average, what takes stock 1000 token/s, Grug does in about 200.