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Grug (caveman compression) of Qwen3.6-35 and 27B is good! (aussie.zone)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone to c/localllama@sh.itjust.works

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Hi all, if you've not heard, there's been a Caveman compression version of Qwen 3.6-27b and Qwen 3.6-35b-3ab.

https://huggingface.co/ProCreations/grug-27b-gguf

https://huggingface.co/ProCreations/grug-35b-v2

https://huggingface.co/ProCreations/grug-35b-v2-gguf

I've been playing around with 35B and I am able to run it on my ancient Quadro P1000 4gb at ~10tok/s.

But beyond that, the quality of the reasoning and the token discipline / output is actually higher than a stock, in my opinion.

You can read the benchmarks above; I am also uploading a HTML file here for your consideration.

(Sorry for the Limewire link; I dunno where else to share throw-away files. It's HTML, though the side by side probably works better if you actually download it)

Anyway...I'm doing more testing right now...but so far, this is a good cook.

Or -

Grug good. Me like.

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[–] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Still fine tuning this. I'm finding that Grug has a particular affinity for larger -b and -ub sizes. I'm now able to hit 90-110 tok/s prefil (upto 155 tok/s fresh). Specific details below

155.42 tok/s fresh 2,009-token prefill
roughly 90–110 tok/s on larger incremental/agentic prefills
roughly 11.3–12.9 tok/s sustained generation
64°C peak CPU temperature
approximately 33 W peak CPU package power
no thermal throttling
ub and -b both 2048

All this on a Quadro P1000 4GB card.

In-sane.

    -m "%MODEL_PATH%" ^
    -t 8 ^
    -tb 8 ^
    -ngl 99 ^
    --n-cpu-moe 38 ^
    --flash-attn on ^
    --no-mmap ^
    --mlock ^
    -c 16384 ^
    -b 2048 ^
    -ub 2048 ^
    -np 1 ^
    --host 0.0.0.0 ^
    --port %PORT% ^
    --ui-mcp-proxy

PS: Interestingly, dropping cache precision away from FP16 reduced tok/s generation by 18%. I don't know why. I'm just fine tuning MTP now to see if I can eke out a few more tok/s, as MTP enabled grug-v2 just dropped

https://huggingface.co/ProCreations/grug-35b-mtp-gguf

PPS: Sadly also discovered my Tesla card has intermittent electrical fault. Took some troubleshooting to figure it out, but the long and short of it is you probably shouldn't buy second-hand server cards off Ebay. Oh well, $100. On the upside, tweaking throttlestop, re-pasting and re-seating greatly improved thermals.