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[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's the special pleading fallacy. You can't define god into existence. If you can, I can define jod into existence. Play fair, people are dying for this shit.

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's not special pleading if it's actually special.

Do you actually think an omnipotent creator would be bound by the same constraints as us?

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Prove that it's actually special.

You can't.

You're making a deadly assertion with zero evidence.

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He created us, right? He is thus of a different nature than us as our nature had not existed before he created it

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He created us, right?

Wrong. Why do you keep pretending this is a fact?

He is thus of a different nature than us as our nature had not existed before he created it

Weird use of "nature". So who or what created god?

Maybe the universe is of a different "nature" to us and always existed. We don't know, so stop pretending.

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

God cannot be created or else he wouldn't be God.

Read Aquinas

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

God cannot be created or else he wouldn't be God.

You cannot define god into existence. Provide evidence for his existence. You can't.

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there is a lot of philosophical proof for God's existence

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago

Philosophy is "some guy said ___." I am asking for actual evidence.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did you know that saying something doesn't make it true? I have read Aquinas. He's full of shit and so are you. You have no argument supporting god's existence.

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you research the Principle for Sufficient Reason?

Everything that exists has a sufficient reason to exist

 

Tell me, what is your reason?

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago

Everything that exists has a sufficient reason to exist

Including god, then? So Jod is real?

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not special pleading if it's actually special.

Jod is even specialer.

Do you actually think an omnipotent creator would be bound by the same constraints as us?

You're right, jod is above all. Praise jod.

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, again, God can't be created as then he wouldn't be God

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same with jod. Also, jod created god.

Since we're all just making shit up here. You haven't proven anything you are saying. My baseless claims are just as valid as yours.

You better not disrespect jod. You don't want to go to turbohell, do you?

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This would require God to be created, which is a logical contradiction

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, it's not logical to believe that god exists at all.

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago

Wrong question. You are the one making the positive claim that god exists.

Why should anyone believe that?