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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 6th September 2026 (awful.systems)

submitted 5 days ago by BlueMonday1984@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid - welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] rhamph@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don’t even get where Marcus is coming from. He worries that this is a total ban on definitely very useful research, and protests:

I could support the pause; I cannot support a permanent ban on research that might benefit humanity. We may need a temporary pause, maybe even one that lasts for a number of years, until such time as we have much better ideas about regulation and alignment.

So just repeal or amend the total ban once those better ideas are available?

Also that’s a very big MIGHT benefit humanity

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

There's a bizarre tendency in a lot of technocrats to basically reject the notion that people in the future will have the power to make different choices. Like, it's not enough to put together a policy that will solve the immediate problem, no matter how pressing, because if you extend the resulting trend line infinitely it might result in a suboptimal outcome. Combined with the TESCREAL project's long-termism and obsession with personal immortality it feels like the link to far-right paternal totalitarianism is actually pretty straightforward.

If I were inclined to research and source properly I feel like there could be some meat there that I don't think Emile Torres and his colleagues have gotten all the way into yet.

[–] samvines@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Marcus is not anti-AI. He is anti Scam Altman and Dario - or more specifically anti-llm. He relentlessly witters on about how "well aktually if you did it my way it would be good AI..." he is still an AI maximalist that wants to bring about AGI. He is one of the most frustrating people whose work I've read because he is soooo close to making a good point the majority of the time and then spoils it by saying "but guise we should totally still do AGI and we should do it my way".

[–] rhamph@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

I suppose my error here is taking him at his word that he could support a ‘pause’, when such a statement could very well just be a concession to appear moderate and reasonable.

[–] fnix@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Seems like he's very heavily professionally invested in the symbolic paradigm and given machine learning completely dominates AI at the moment he's taking the piss at them whenever he can. Given the fundamental limitations of ML he's probably right that any sincere attempt to improve on them requires a more symbolic approach, but talking specifically about AGI is getting into woo territory.