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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

2 months until China drops a better one for free

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

Chinese models are typically only cheaper than models from western labs, not higher performance. Which is better in one aspect, but not the other

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] magnue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

27B ;)
or lower depends on your ram

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean 27b models are practically speaking useless at anything but turning your computer into a space heater, in my experience, but yeah

[–] notSys@lemmy.cafe 2 points 6 hours ago

Qwen 3.8 27B is very good at agentic work

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago

atleast they are kinda decent

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah but not comparable to a frontier model

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The head of IT at my org is dying on this hill. He says specialized models with proper routing can outperform the big boys. … I really want him to be right, but I don’t believe it. I work with both. The 27B models are like working with ChatGPT on release day.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 9 hours ago

Well of course they outperform them if they're specialized to a purpose... Theres a like 3B model that plays Minecraft and generally kicks the ass of all the more general llms

And in general, the big models are primarily better at remembering instructions and context... An 8B model can hold a basic conversation or perform simple tasks on a similar level to a frontier model

Really, really depends on what they're specialized to do though

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

better then nothing i guess,but yeah true

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I made the aqwentance of this one already. The new one is particularly good.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago

i didnt test the 27B models cause of my RAM/VRAM,but they sound decent.