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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Having fewer kids is extremely environmentally friendly

this is some malthusian eugenicist bullshit.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Malthusian yes, eugenicist no.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you can't implement any malthusian policy that isn't necessarily eugenicist.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

People may make it eugenicist but the policy can not be. For exemple if the country gives money for the first child but not the second, you reduce the intentions to have more than one. Then maybe people will kill their baby because they want a blond girl but this is their fault.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm giving money to my country by paying taxes?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In social countries, parents receive money for parental leaves and to pay for childcare for example.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

eugenics, selecting against socialized countries.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

you can't do any malthusian advocacy that isn't necessarily eugenicist

[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Humans cause pollution so fewer humans = less pollution. It's not that complicated.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck ecofascism. The problem is not how many we are. We are well within the planet's carrying capacity. The problem is how the richest among us live.

[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Almost every modern human uses non-renewable resources and produces greenhouse gases either directly or indirectly. At the current rates it is unsustainable. It is the exponential growth of industry, technology, and human population that has caused the dramatic shift in climate change.

The top 10% earning Americans (>$178,000/year) created 40% of the nation's pollution according to a recent study. And that factored in the industries they worked in. That still means that the majority of climate change is caused by the activity of normal people.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

doubling down on this is fucking gross

[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Advocating for overpopulation is fucking gross. The planet is already experiencing another mass extinction event.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago

no one is advocating for overpopulation. I'm advocating for the silencing of malthusian and xenophobes by any means necessary.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We can acknowledge reality without being histrionic. I’m not calling for an end to humanity. I’m simply explaining that human life is wasteful and inefficient. I think we should accept that, rather than pretending otherwise. Tinkering around the edges isn’t going to change the trend.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

this is just ecofascism

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago

misogyny is another classic hallmark of fascism.