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I just realised, I can't post anything on lemmy.ml

So, I checked https://lemmy.ml/modlog, there's a new moderator.

All posts and comments talking about China, Jinping, Russia, and Putin have been deleted and users banned

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Obviously a bit thin skinned, but IMO lemmy.ml can do what they want with their moderation. It is not anybody else's decision how they moderate, except of course keeping it legal.

Seems to me almost all those comments are somewhat offensive, for instance calling people tankies, claiming they should go back under their stone, and frequently use the word fuck, as if those are some sort of argument. I'm guessing rule 2 is something about not being rude. Personally I find that perfectly OK not to allow rude comments.

OP should "read the room" and terms better, then maybe they could have a proper debate.

PS:

Rule 2 of lemmy.ml includes: "Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. " Clearly that rule is ignored over and over again by the above user.

I'm shocked the statement that lemmy.ml can moderate as they want is in any way controversial, yet here we are, and this post has about a third downvotes.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy dot ml is like, one step away from becoming another Lemmygrad.

and I think thats probably by design, Since lemmygrad is defederated from a lot of the better instances, what better way to get back into them than to take over a federated instance.

Especially when the admins and lemmy creators are down with your tankie ideology and support you taking over the instance.

[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

except of course keeping it legal

This is also up to them. If the admins are ok to get corresponding consequences - they can do this.

Posts like this posted here from time to time.

And I think the main problem is: the fact that an instance has a very strong political view and even a censorship becomes a big surprise for people using this exact instance.

It looks like an instance and community policies must be somehow better visible.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is also up to them.

No it's not, they may walk the line, but if they cross it, the law will ultimately be enforced. So in the long run, a service can only exist if it is kept legal.

Posts like this posted here from time to time.

I'm not sure what you mean, but yes there are repeated attacks on lemmy.ml, and it's getting tiring, because it always turns out to be very speculative, and not really an issue.

an instance has a very strong political view and even a censorship

They are moderating according to their own rules. Rule 2: "Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here." Clearly the above poster violated this rule over and over.

It looks like an instance and community policies must be somehow better visible.

That's a completely different debate.

[–] thoro@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the only good take I've read on this thread so far. People are mad their opinions, vitriol, and/or FUD aren't tacitly approved by the mods of another instance.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Thank you. I find it sad that so many people don't seem to understand that their right to free speech, is not a right to dictate other people, or force themselves on whatever forum they want.

[–] Sodis@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But they are taking away free speech!!! \s

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Truly sad to see a majority is down voting this, meaning they believe free speech includes how a lemmy instance is moderated?!

[–] Corgana@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

About 30% (just my estimate) of the people here from Reddit had a problem with mods having too much freedom granted to them by Spez. There is an irony that such people would be attracted to a decentralized network where instances have even more freedom to shape their communities, but as you said- it doesn't really matter what people think when anyone can go start their own.

[–] ram@bookwormstory.social 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Genuine question, is that 30% a real number with a source?

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just my estimate based on observation. It's been my experience that most of the people on the Fediverse seem to want strong moderation tools, but there's definitley a contingent that would prefer a looser form of moderation (or none at all). The cool thing about the Fediverse is that both can peacefully coexist.

[–] ram@bookwormstory.social 4 points 2 years ago

The cool thing about the Fediverse is that both can peacefully coexist.

Ya I love this feature of the platform. Some instances can be strict on what content they want to have (e.g. beehaw and exploding-heads) while others can be the libertarian platform of their dreams (e.g. personal instances).

It would be interesting to see some polling on this, but I'm no statistician and wouldn't be able to perform it in a way that wouldn't be bias, nor could I account for that bias. 😔

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I prefer looser mod powers

Reddit mods were capricious and drunk with petty power