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[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 219 points 2 years ago (23 children)

“You’re already” makes sense as a sentence and I don’t like it lol

[–] RandomStickman@kbin.social 190 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Y’all’s opinions are irrelevant here. We are enemies now.

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't understand what yinz guys is sayin

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Youse people…

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't start with that philly jawn

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Philly? I do hope you're kidding

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not kidding, just ignorant 😞

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ha! That's Pittsburghese, friend!

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I realized my faux pas TOO LATE! I got my yinz and jawn all mixed up!

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Y’all’s is perfectly good Texan though.

[–] whodatdair@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago
[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 years ago

I hate you so much rn

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I threw up in my dictionary

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The reason it feels wrong is that "are" is the main verb in the sentence and shouldn't be contracted. You are only supposed to contract auxiliary verbs like "you're eating already" where eating is the main verb and are is auxiliary.

~~Edit: (I used a bad example because "eating" is a noun, as pointed out below.)~~

Un-edit: The example's correct, "eating" is a verb in this context.

Also, I'm thoroughly confused about who's saying "you're already" in this comic.

[–] door_in_the_face@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

But "You're already fluffy" works without another main verb?

[–] DaGeek247@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes. It doesn't work as "you're already" and really, it doesn't work all thay well as "you are already" either. This is almost yoda levels of rearrangement.

It makes the most sense as "you already are".

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago
[–] hakase@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yup, this is likely a phonological restriction in addition to a syntactic one, though it's worth noting that the copula (the "be" verb) shows a lot of idiosyncratic behavior in different contexts in different dialects of English.

It seems that this pattern may have something to do with stress assignment within a predicate, but I'm not sure what the conditioning environment is at first glance. Any English phonologists here who can shed some more light on this?

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I'm no expert, but I think "you're already" doesn't work because the "anti-stress" on the contraction tells us the focus is later, but the focus of "already" is actually on the "are" in "you're". It trips us up because it sneaks the focus past us and then just ends the sentence before the focus the stress told us about arrives.

It may also be because "you are already" is a variant of the sentence "you are" which can't be contracted, so the contraction insinuates "you're already [something]". It makes us parse a different sentence structure than it is, then we get confused when the sentence ends early.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Eating" isn't a verb, either. The person you're responding to just got some terms wrong, the underlying idea about contractions is correct.

[–] arekkusu@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago

"Eating" most definitely is a verb in that context

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good point, thanks I removed the "eating" example. That's what I get for commenting in the morning.

[–] Mogofwin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think your example is actually correct. Eating CAN be a noun, but in your example it is a present participle, a type of verb. It would be a noun if eating was the subject, ie: "eating is fun," where it would be a gerund. https://teacherblog.ef.com/grammar-recap-intro-to-gerunds-and-infinitives/

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sigh I think you're right. It's the progressive form of the verb.

That's been throwing me off all day. Thanks for confirming. Grammar is confusing.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Its obviously the cat's ass, which explains its facial expression.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Also, is the cat saying it? The speak marker points to the cat on the third frame not the dude on the third or fourth.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

She's already what though?

Omae wa mo

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is wrong: should be "You are already", as the emphasis of the sentence is on "are"

https://youtu.be/CkZyZFa5qO0

[–] BoxerDevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah but I think it's not a full sentence because she smacks him before he can finish the sentence

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