(Thread here: https://nitter.fdn.fr/RodericDay/status/1666063389733298176#m) They have some decent stuff, but they are also tailist patsocs. It’s probably better to just read the Black Agenda Report article than buy the book.
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I would reply to a specific comment but there are too many to choose from - can anyone provide some links that show MWM cozying up with patsocs? I checked their youtube channel and nothing obvious jumps out at me. They recently called for the seizing of the means of production, which I don't think patsocs do - I remember seeing a clip of one patsoc (I don't care enough to know who's who in the fake communist world) on Tucker Carlson claiming that communists don't care about private property anymore.
Some examples of them interacting with patsocs on twitter. There are also youtube comments where they praise Haz. Also this happened.
Some of their other employees also interact on twitter with patsocs and their communities seem to be tolerant of misogyny among other things. Now they just use the "purity fetish" as a conversation-ender to attack any criticism thrown at them without engaging with the substance.
They sort of try to hide it/keep it away from their main stuff, but the connections are there if you look. MWM themselves have some problematic content as shown by some of their articles posted in this thread and their broad anti-decolonial takes. There is more evidence of other stuff out there, although I haven't looked into this specifically.
To me it's just too much clearly bad stuff to consider them a good source for things. They have had some good content about certain topics, but I'd rather not sift through the patsoc or patsoc-adjacent stuff to get to it. Not to mention that they recently seem to be going down the open patsoc line more and more. There are plenty of other Marxists online who don't have this kind of track record.
Thanks for sharing these too, pretty disappointing. I only use youtube and listen to podcasts so I'm out of the loop when it comes to tweets. Are there good content creators you can recommend? I already sub to the Deprogram guys, Marx Madness, Breakthrough News, Positive Leftist News, Socialism 4 All, Rev Left Radio/Red Menace, Blowback, and Horror Vanguard.
Sorry, can't really recommend anyone. I don't follow much Marxist content on youtube/in podcast form.
I can suggest the Geopolítical economy report, Guerrilla history, Decolonized Buffalo, Turn Leftist, and also, maybe, Programmed to Chill (They’re a little too close to a red-brown alliance type TERF named Brigid from the probably cancelled podcast, but I have heard anything directly bad from Jimmy, I think he’s a Marxist, and he talks about parapolics and fascist history, if you want to listen start from the beginning).
I forgot to mention Geopolitical Economy Report, it's great. I like when Guerrilla History has a good guest but I just can't listen to Henry for some reason, he makes me immediately zone out. I'll check out the others, thanks!
Here’s the patsoc article i hyperlinked in the description: https://www.midwesternmarx.com/articles/in-defense-of-us-proletarian-patriotism-a-comradely-response-to-danny-haiphongs-marxist-polemic-on-patriotic-socialism-by-kayla-popuchet Here’s the thread someone linked to of the argument with MWM: https://twitter.com/RodericDay/status/1665715635093897217?s=20 Here’s the RBN stream with Eddie and Haz that many have gestured toward: https://www.youtube.com/live/GMat_oxfVzo?feature=share
That first article makes Danny Haiphong more based than I previously thought
Thanks for putting these together! I'll read through them