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before they were defederated by beehaw due to trolling issues, thenthedonlald showed up, and now exploding heads? what is happening right now?

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[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 years ago (43 children)

One of the benefits of a federated social media network is being able to pick an instance that aligns with your own values. If you'd prefer that the admins defederate certain content that isn't defederated by this instance, have you considered using an instance that more closely aligns with your views? As long as they haven't defederated this instance, you'll still be able to interact with any users and communities on this instance that you don't personally block.

I sincerely hope this doesn't sound like I'm asking you to leave. One of the reasons I'm on this instance is that everyone is welcome to make an account, which feels very inclusive to me.

[–] zeusbottom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (12 children)

have you considered using an instance that more closely aligns with your views?

This sounds like a lot of homework. I want to interact with people, not worry about whether my chosen server is and will remain acceptable to every clique.

[–] zeusbottom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

One other late thought on this. Lemmy advocates like this one have told me that “It doesn't matter which instance you use. You'll still be able to interact with communities (subreddits) on all other instances, regardless of which instance your account lives.” Doesn’t defederation prevent interaction between two instances, making the above statement false?

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think it would be harmful if defederation became commonplace and fragment the fediverse. On the other hand, I don't see any issue with there being "niche" instances which have a specific demographic of users they want to serve, and I don't see any harm in them defederating with other niche instances. Lemmygrad and exploding heads seem like a good example, I've heard they've defederated each other. I don't think that affects the overall fediverse too much because the users of those instances would probably block or brigade the other instance anyway. There wouldn't be any positive interaction between them, so nothing of value has been lost.

Basically, I think it would be ideal if it's only the "niche" instances that use defederation as a moderation tool, and most instances only defederate for spam or illegal content.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Defederation doesn't prevent you from subscribing to the instance that defederated yours, you'll only be able to interact with people from your own instance when checking content over there.

[–] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

small and private instances are the key

[–] Relected@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

it only applies when you use your own instance or an instance you can control

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