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This separation wasn't a "Brady fans" thing -- this was almost contrived by fans of other great QBs, particularly fans of Peyton Manning, almost exclusively to diminish Brady's greatness. Until Brady went off and won a SB on his own, the main use of the separation was "well, Brady had Belichick, Rodgers/Manning would have won 10 with him".
In my day, nobody ran around giving Walsh any substantial credit for Montana. Favre wasn't s product of Mike Holmgren. Certainly nobody was calling Manning a product of Tony Dungy, who was a SB winning head coach before Manning.
What's happening with Belichick right now happens with plenty of great coaches. Belichick's rebuilding seasons in the past were often absurd 10+ win season and it's more a function of a fan base that doesn't understand that. It's got more to do with personnel decisions in the last 4 seasons more than anything to do with Brady.