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Just watched the Boy Boy video on George Bush’s Masterclass, and they made me think about which U.S. President was actually worse.

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[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Okay but Bush actually stole a presidential election.

[–] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If Trump was competent, he'd have been much worse.
He tried to start a war in Venezuela and failed.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

I think their administrations likely had equally bad intentions. The incompetence of Trump’s administration just means they acted more erratically. They were also much worse at getting press on their side and worse at covering up their actions.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The electoral college stole them both an election, neither of them actually won their first term popular votes. With Bush it was just more screwed up because of it all coming down to a handful of votes in FL and however many recounts with the court eventually calling it quits. One of the few times where the popular and electoral votes didn't agree but 2 withing 4 presidential terms isn't a good sign. At some point we need to get rid of that arcane getup. Land doesn't vote but those guaranteed 2 electors that every state gets ends up with places out in the middle of nowhere getting more votes per capita than actual population centers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_popular_vote_margin

[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

People like to say this, and I get it, I get the controversy, and I get why, but Florida was a statistical tie. A thousand recounts would have ended at the same spot of more infighting. The supreme Court was conservative leaning and decided in favor of the conservative to no one's surprise. If the supreme Court was 5-4 liberal, Gore would have won.

The whole issue is so much more two sided than people realize. For example, the person who invented the butterfly ballots was a Democrat politician.

I am not personally in favor of the court's ruling, I wish Gore had won. The world would be a MUCH better place without GWB having won the presidency.