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[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 128 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If feel like us guys are at a disadvantage here. All our lives were are told not to complain unless we bring a solution, not to cry, get up, keep moving.

Then suddenly the thought pattern we have been trained on all our lives turns out to not be healthy for supporting others and it's a hard transition to make when we want so desperately to help and are asked not to.

Not saying it's wrong, just hard.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think my problem is also we're told to be empathetic and emotionally present. So what we're being asked to do is suffer alongside without being able to alleviate the suffering.

I find this much more difficult than solving whatever the problem is, because, maybe I'm weird, but I feel pretty much all the suffering around me as if it's happening to me, and especially when it's my wife suffering.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

what we're being asked to do is suffer alongside without being able to alleviate the suffering.

I know that isn't actually what people think they are asking for, but it sure feels like it so often.

Thanks for putting this into words for me.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Perhaps everyone wants to vent a while before they get a solution, but men aren't allowed to do that.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

it's a hard transition to make when we want so desperately to help and are asked not to.

Listening is helping. It took me a while to get that, but we're helping just by being quiet.