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From a materialist perspective, why did the the global north, the western global north in particular, become so powerful it could loot the rest of the world with borderline impunity? (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by GinAndJuche@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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I've recently read"The Verge: Reformation, Renaissance, and Forty Years that Shook the World" and want to hear what all of you think the answer is, because I feel like the book was missing something in its thesis and I am not very sure what that is.

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[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I doubt it, India was also in constant war as was the Middle East

Europeans just had a giga shitload more money and more resources to finance the wars, so they won

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You still need the permanent war though:

  1. Permanent war.
  2. Spain dumps new world gold and silver on the fire.
  3. War intensifies
  4. Capitalism finally emerges
  5. Northern Europeans start colonizing either as capitalist for-profit ventures or to escape capitalism.
[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You still need the permanent war though

yea but that's like air

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its cheaper than two continents of gold and silver but its not "like air". Permanent war. Always on the home front, not the frontier. Western Europe ground on for like a millennia without any empire establishing itself.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

same with every other place save China (but still sometimes even China)