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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Exactly what I was thinking

It like those highspeed rail projects that are finally getting going in the US, they're over budget because a lot of people now have to be trained on how to work on such a project due to either lost knowledge or new stuff they're learning during the process

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Another factor in the trains, at least for California, is that the project was put on hold for a while because of the hyper loop crap. Now they need to resume buying land for the track and prices are where they are

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah they are over budget because there is no incentive to keep under budget, it was sub contracted out so much that there is either no communication/miscommunication/or willfully not listening, sales pretended they were engineers, and bad engineers were promoted to project management.

I work in infrastructure.

Me three weeks ago on email to main contractor: hello, your spec is calling for some parts that are no longer manufactured which means we will have to buy used. Leading to more money now and higher replacement part costs in the future for the government. Plus these parts are on the border of safe.

This morning: your exception list was rejected, follow spec.

So a small city in California is getting a brand new system made of used parts. No this isn't a direct quote this is a summary.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

can the maintenance department who will be eventually responsible start working on fabricating those so you'll have new-made even if not off the shelf? rapid prototyping and small runs....

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Nah. I deal with the electronics and city maintenance departments arent going to sit there and clone a touch screen from the late 90s. Even if they somehow could it wouldn't matter because the spec calls for products by brand name.

This is why there are cost overruns. It's crap like this.

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The paying to train is one thing. The bigger problem is people who aren't super experienced in these projects doing estimates and costings.

You're always going to have some overruns, and if you're lucky, some underruns too. But if your estimates are out of wack... well. Good luck. Combine that with Parkinson's law and you are in for a world of hurt.