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[–] grue@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Communes w/ no real government or class structure

Yeah, that's what upper-class Hobbits like the Bagginses want you to think.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

With a literal servant class that does all the actual work, no less.

The reality is there isn't a "left" in Tolkien, even under the original definition from the French Revolution, it's monarchism all the way down because at the end of the day he was a pretty firm monarchist making a pseudo-Catholic fantasy setting.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry, missed that part of the book and movies. When do we meet the servant class that works for the Baggins' and the other ruling class Hobbits?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sam is Frodo's gardener despite Frodo having no job. Neither did Bilbo have a job and Baggins were referred to as aristocracy along with Brandybucks and Tooks.

https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Baggins_family

[–] StarPupil@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And I believe Frodo became mayor of either Hobbiton or the entire Shire before he left for the Grey Havens at the end of ROTK. Could be misremembering, though

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Sam became mayor.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

Let's take their spoons, and hang them from the tree on top of Bag End!